1000 Facebook "Friends" Ignore Woman's Suicide

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  1. ChronicTom

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  2. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    suicide is painless

    can the same be said for life?
     
  3. ChronicTom

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    Not to those left behind.
     
  4. Invisible Soul

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    Absolutely not. Hence why death sometimes seems so tempting. To be honest, Im very fearful of dying, and of what lies beyond. I think if not for that fear, Id have killed myself a very long time ago.
     
  5. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    sometimes there aren't any

    these days i've got too many litter boxes to clean to even consider it

    but in days past, pretty much like invisible soul said . . .
     
  6. Invisible Soul

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    Exactly. I dont know why everyone automatically assumes that everyone who contemplates or commits suicide has loved ones who are left behind. Nobody would give a toss if I died, due to having literally no family or friends.

    Haha, I like what you said about litter boxes. lol ;) Having cats around definitely helps ease the loneliness a bit.
     
  7. ChronicTom

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    That is rarer then people who commit suicide would like to believe.

    It may not even be people who knew the person that their suicide effects... It could be a neighbor that didnt even know they were alive in the first place... Then to find out later that someone who had lived beside them felt so alone in the world that they felt their only option was to kill themselves... and all the time, the neighbor was sitting there watching wheel of fortune.

    Unless a person has had zero human interaction (including over the net) for the last decade or so, is in the middle of nowhere, 100's of miles from any other living human, there is almost ZERO chance that it wont effect other people.

    Does life sometimes get hard and seem like there is no way out? Yes... and by committing suicide, all you are doing is transferring that hardship and pain onto others that are left behind... ALWAYS.
     
  8. ChronicTom

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    Thanks
     
  9. Invisible Soul

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    To be honest, expecting someone to keep on living a hell of a life just to not "effect" other people, especially people who the person never actually personally knew seems to me to be a very selfish attitude indeed.
     
  10. lunarverse

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    It brings on many changes,
    and I can take or leave it if I please.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. ChronicTom

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    Some people chose to live in their own hell all by themselves by rejecting every form of friendship that is extended to them... and then denying it happens.

    There isn't anything anyone can do for those type of people.

    It still doesn't change the fact that they will be effecting other people with their act.

    An act that seems it is based on a bed of lies (NOBODY cares), is a selfish and self fulfilling act.
     
  12. Invisible Soul

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    It is very, very easy, to condemn and judge someone when you've never walked in their shoes. As for "choosing to live in their own hell" yes, of course, EVERYONE who's living a hell of a life has chosen that, and loves it so much.

    And it still doesnt change the fact that expecting someone to live that life, is equally as "selfish" as you're proposing it is for the person commiting suicide.
     
  13. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    One can't live for other people. Friends and family can come and go. If you live for something that is potentially transitory, what do you have to live for when it's gone?

    One has to learn to live for oneself, it makes a person much stronger. It's the same thing they tell anybody who's sobering up from booze or drugs. If you do it for someone else, once that reason is gone, the person has no reason to stay sober. One has to do it for themselves because that can never be taken away.
     
  14. ChronicTom

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    Where did I say I expected someone to choose not to commit suicide?

    What I said is the TRUTH, whether you want to hide from it or not.

    It doesn't matter a single bit if YOU believe you are alone in the world or not.

    You want to commit suicide, do it HONESTLY, with FULL KNOWLEDGE that you ARE going to effect other people around you in a negative manner.
     
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    It is even easier to ignore what someone says with a line like this, especially when you have no idea what they have walked in their shoes...
     
  16. Invisible Soul

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    Ive always had to live for myself. Even when I had people around me, I was alone. You are totally right, and the biggest problem I have, is I hate myself. So living for myself doesnt really seem worth it to me.

    I also think if you have to live for yourself, then that also must include a potential decision to end your own life. I think its fair to say that most people who commit suicide, even those who do have loved ones, are only thinking of themselves when they make that decision. Or maybe some think those left behind will be better off without them. You also have to remember, a lot of people who take their own lives are not thinking rationally or straight. So anyone in that state of mind cant really be blamed for their actions.
     
  17. The Imaginary Being

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    I haz sausage fingers.
     
  18. Reverand JC

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    Alright dude. I spend 36 hours a week working with disabled people. I have one client on the weekend who is 52 years old and has MD. He has never walked in his life. We cleaned out some old blank tapes in his corner some of them had his handwriting on them. He can't write anymore. He is easily one of the happiest people that I have ever met. My other weekend client has a spinal chord injury and has been in a wheelchair for 35 years and can only move one arm. He is one of the most laid back people I know.

    I'm sure that both of them have had there moments of depression and thought about ending it. Fuck knows that I have. The thing is that everything in life is impermament. Life and death are continuous. While you sit at your computer reading this there are cells in your body dying and cells coming around to replace them. It is truly an amazing thing. But this impermanence is is the reassuring thing that keeps me going. If it is a good day I enjoy it more because I know it's not going to last forever. If it's a bad day I just let go and let it happen because it will be over soon enough.

    I don't look down my nose at people who commit suicide or think about it. I knew someone who had a brain tumor that jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge before he degenerated that far. I see why he did it and I don't hold it against him. But it is still enough to make those around him miss him.

    Stay Brown,
    Rev J
     
  19. lunarverse

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    I think that in a lot of cases of people who try and/or "succeed" to commit suicide, they tell themselves that nobody cares as a way to clear their own conscience. That's exactly what's so selfish about it. Although one has the "right" to end their own life, as you said, they should do it honestly.

    By fabricating a reality in which, "no one cares/no one will miss me," they attempt to ease their own guilty conscience. It's no different than the rapist who tells himself that his victims enjoy it, or the abuser who tells themselves, "he/she was asking for it." Guilty conscience/ displacement of responsibility.
     
  20. Invisible Soul

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    The difference is, Ive never pretended to walk in someone else's shoes, and preached to them on the basis of that.
     

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