1000 Facebook "Friends" Ignore Woman's Suicide

To those who imagine suicide is a bad idea or that it is selfish can only be thinking of themselves. I can't imagine that there is a difference in the quality of death regardless of being squashed to death, dying of pneumonia, or taking your own life.

The unpleasant thing for most is dealing with the aftermath. We "honor the dead" not because the dead need anything but because it is comfort to the living.

Having said this, I think my personal impulse in regarding suicide is don't do it, but I have a suspicion that the "taboo" sensation around suicide is culturally induced hysteria. Suicide does not conflict with a fundamental principle of a desire to be because we can desire to be, no more.

Suicide is a fact. We do not become upset for the fact, but for the interpretation of the fact.

 

I never said you expected that, what I said was you would automatically see it as a selfish act if they did commit suicide, regardless of the individual circumstances.

Ive been effected far too much from others and society in a negative way to put too much stock in that.

 

And I have?

You make your own reality... your claims last year that you were alone and nobody cared about you were bullshit then, and they are even more so now.

There are people on this very site, besides me, who have approached you with the hand of friendship and offered help.

You're response is that same, you dont want help or friends... in fact, you push people away specifically so you can say that you have no friends...

That is your choise... it is also your lie and your hell, and you are the only one who can ever change it...

Regardless of your insinuations against me, I still make the same offer to you I did the first time. If you need a place or you need someone to talk to, you are welcome to both here.

Because regardless of your lies to yourself, some people DO care.

 

Because it is selfish... It is the MOST selfish act in the world...

Accept that or not, it is true.

 

The problem with 'walking in someone else's shoes' argument is that so often the person in question fails to do the same for the people around them. I mean suicide would bring a serious amount of pain to a mother, if it is that bad would you be willing to transfer this pain justly?

And anyways, there's also the issue of simply taking another's shoes. They could become really unhappy, imagine the headline

MANS FAVOURITE SHOES STOLEN, JUMPS OFF BRIDGE

 

None of the negative things that have happened to me in my life I niether wanted, nor asked for, so that's just nonsense.

 

While that's true, the reason it is considered selfish is because those "left behind" (for lack of a better term) are left to live the rest of their lives with the pain and mental anguish of the event. One could argue that it's selfish to have the unhappy person stick around, but the fact is that all unhappiness is transitory and can be remedied.

So, if a person commits suicide rather than seek ways to make themselves happy just like every single person has to do, it seems pretty selfish. Finding happiness isn't always easy, but there's always something out there for everyone, to make them happy. Everyone has trouble finding those things in life which I think is something that a lot of people who consider suicide don't understand. Their problems are universal but they don't see it that way.

 

It is not true, and I dont accept it, and never will.

 

That may be so, but it's likely you who denies yourself any happiness. I think what Tom means is that you have the choice to be happy.

 

Stamp your feet when you say that and it will be the perfect image.

It still wont change the facts...

Just who is it that you think you would be committing suicide FOR, if not for yourself?

 

QFT and +repped (oops, not repped, sorry man, you talk too much...lol)

 

The huge problem I have with this attitude, it puts every person, and every person's so-called "problems" on the same level. It leaves no room for individual cirumstances, or individual problems. You say "everyone has trouble finding those things in life", but what that fails to address, is that for some people, finding those things are far more difficult, and far more problematic than it is for others. There are more obstacles to be overcome. And some people neither have the will, nor the energy to overcome those problems. Everyone's problems are not the same, and are not on the same level, so to say everyone's problems are "universal" is both very naive and completely unrealistic.

 

You cannot accept that I have a different opinion from yours, and you have the cheek to say that to me? Unbelievable. lol

Facts? No, you cannot prove that, so they are not facts.

Ahem... did I ever say it would be for anyone but myself? No.

 

YES, every time you said it wasn't a selfish act.

 

So, you insist that it is so. Qualities are yours to pronounce, we name the animals. This is how you define the parameters of your experience. You would defend vociferously your right to have been negatively affected by things. Why would you curse your life, all of my experiences are vital to contributing to my current state of being.

This is what is meant by you create your own reality. You create the flavor of your own experience. You give the world all the meaning it has for you.

 

But by the same token wanting to keep someone alive who is suffering is also a selfish act. You might dress it up as "thinking of the other person" but really, or at least in some cases, they are more thinking of themselves. Really, just as selfish as someone committing suicide. And just because Id do it for myself, doesnt make it a selfish act.

 

I saw that, but it was better then nothing being presented for the UK... I would hope that if you called there and you said you were over 30, they wouldn't turn you away without at least giving you another number.

 

Unless you are living on a planet only populated by yourself, or a very strong willed person, and dont allow society's highly negative attitudes and actions to affect you, then its not as simple as you are painting it.

 

The huge problem I have with this attitude is that it is self-indulgent and self-loathing.

Every person's problems are, in "value", not on the same level. However everyone has their own problems to get over. So what are you going to do; spend your entire life complaining that you have it worse than others, or except that you (and everyone else) has problems and take the steps to overcome them?

"I'm sad, I'm alone, I'm unhappy." These problems are not universal? You're getting caught up on trivialities. The fact of life is that we will always have problems, there will always be problems, their nature is not as important as the the fact that they are there. So accept it and move on.

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