1000 Facebook "Friends" Ignore Woman's Suicide

Seriously... I just don't know what to say about that besides that you had best look up the definition of selfish...

Here is where the rest of what you say breaks down...

Out of the two of us, you are the only one who wants you to remain alive and suffering... I want you to remain alive and find happiness.

All those choices are yours, and yours alone.

You wish to claim to be friendless... that is your choice.

You wish to claim no-one cares? Also, your choice.

You want to tell people who deny those things to you, that they are lying... also your choice...

You wish to wallow in your hell... Your choice...

You wish to end it all, Also your choice...

Each one of them only you can make. You are the one who decides what your perception of your life is... nobody else... When you insist that all you see is shit, you will see nothing else.

At no point in time have I told you (or anyone else) not to commit suicide, that is a personal decision... I have offered my opinion as to why I don't think its a good choice... and I have pointed out that it is the most selfish act in the world.

The only thing you accomplish by committing suicide (over depression and such) is to ease the torment you are going through (regardless of the cause)... In it, you are effecting others peoples lives around you, whether or not you wish to recognize that... the fact that you do everything in your power to deny it, just shows how selfish you really are about it.

At least have the decency and sense of self respect to be honest with yourself about what it really is you are talking about.

An act that has one purpose regardless of all else, the ease (rightly or wrongly) of your suffering.

Selfishness.

 

WTH????

Apply this to yourself.... lol

 

I never said I had it worse than others, stop putting words into my mouth. Ive always said there are people worse off than me. But by the same token there are those who are far better off than me who complain at how crap they have it. Some of my problems literally cant be overcome. Its just a matter of learning to live with them, which I have. But that doesnt mean I dont still loath them as much as I ever did.

True, but there are many people as I just stated who say those things, who really have no right to say them. Is a teen who broke up with a partner after a few weeks in an equal state of despair and unhappiness as a starving person in a third world country? Of course not. Their nature is very important, as some people elevate very minute and trivial problems into huge ones. Making mountains out of molehills, for lack of a better term. There are many people who have killed themselves over very trivial matters.

I was saying what?

 

That being the ultimate goal.

 

I just did apply it to myself. lmao

 

I didn't get any farther than this. We are not upset for the fact, but the interpretation of fact. The pain and mental anguish are not cause by the event.
The pain and mental anguish is cause by the internal dialogue in this moment. We mourn a loss when we actively deny existence based on the evidence of the body.

Our experience of other is very much a mental simulation in which the body actually plays a very small role. We can get a hint of this when we consider persons who we know that are physically separated by distance. When we consider that person we are comfortable with the distance, they were alive when we saw them last and we assume they are currently alive. We may find this situation comfortable indefinitely unless some one tells us otherwise, but the only thing that is changed in our immediate experience is the story about.

 

I am a very weak person, so shoot me.

 

So you insist. I do not depreciate the power of your mind, you needn't either. There are no idle thoughts.

 

This is an interesting reversal on things...

Perhaps instead of looking at it as, people who aren't as bad as you, committed suicide, so it's okay for you to, you should to see that there are people who are much worse then you, who didn't, and have found a way to cope with their issues.

 

I never said it was okay for me to commit suicide because people who arent as bad off as me have done so. I was merely stating a fact. What I used as an example, people have killed themselves over. What makes someone do that though, is anyone's guess. They obviously have no fear of death, whereas I very much do.

Like I said, I am a very weak person. If you wish to condemn me for that, and think I am a bad person for that, then I cant stop you. Maybe I am a bad person, but Im not strong willed, and I cant make myself be.

 

What I mean, is apply it the same to your effect on people around you.

Do you really think that everyone in the world is a strong willed person who won't be effected by your suicide?

You can't say you don't know anyone or have any contact with people... you have lots on this site alone... Is every person you have ever interacted with a strong willed person that won't let others choices effect their lives?

Of course not... you just don't care...

Selfishness.

 

Loathing our problems is one thing. Allowing them to define us to the point where one considers suicide as a means of fixing them is another. As you said, it's a matter of learning to live with the one's that can't be overcome, not dying for them.

You were saying that some people's problems are greater to overcome. That they have more obstacles to overcome than others. I posted a video of an armless guy playing the guitar. How big or how many problems is trivial. Regardless of how big or how many obstacles one has to overcome, the important thing is to overcome them and not let them define oneself or they way one lives. "I can't play the guitar, I don't have arms..."

 

She should have posted the vid on Youtube.com..... bet it would have gone viral

 

Or maybe, you can stop thinking I am trying to condem you, and try, just for a few moments, to see it from any other perspective then yours...

Just try it on for a moment and see how it feels to look at the world from a perspective of what it would be like to be trapped in stephen hawkins body, or the armless guitar player... people who looked around, realized they got the shitty end of the stick and found a path that could bring them happiness IN SPITE OF their circumstances...

Imagine what it would have been like to be yourself, 200 years ago when you wouldnt have had online contacts... By this time in life you would have driven every living human withing a couple days ride away from you, fulfilling your "I'm alone" fantasy....

 

But, nobody is a strong willed person in that instance, so using that as a stick to attack me with, really doesnt hold water.

And you took what I said COMPLETELY out of context. I meant I have noone in a physical capacity, IE, I have noone around me. If you took that to heart, then Im sorry, but you completely misinterpreted what I meant when I said that. And I do feel alone. Its very hard not to. So while what you said is true, it still doesnt affect how I feel. Is it an illusion, perhaps. But it still feels very real to me.

I dont care? Okay, whatever you say.

 

While I enjoyed this part ^^, about the interpretation of the fact...

The upsetting part isn't as much the loss of the body of the person. It, at least to me personally, is the knowledge of how much the person suffered, the pain they experienced both mentally and physically, and the fact that they were unhappy in general.

One gets over the loss of the body. One doesn't get over the suffering of a loved one.

 

This just proves you know absolutely zero about my upbringing, or how I was treated, or the attitudes I was shown by those around me. And you have no right to be saying the things you are. You are criticising and condemning me when you havent the faintest idea about me. What about the people who ostracised me and drove me away? The people who are supposed to love and care about me the most? And treated me like a sub-human freak instead of a human being? At least get your facts straight if you're going to attack me. Get off your high horse please, it doesnt suit you at all...

 

If you do care, show it by having the respect to understand that your actions will effect others...

Your physical lonliness is also something of your own making...

Whatever your circumstances are, even if you were completely paralyzed and only able to talk online through some nifty gadget, you could still make friends online in your area (assuming you arent at the north pole) that you could share life with.

Hell, even if you were trapped in a bubble where you couldnt touch other people, you could still have a social life, although to be sure it would be different then most people's...

 

Okay, I am done trying to convince you that you aren't alone...

You are determined to continue attacking me, and accusing me of condemning you.

Interpret it all how you want.

My offers still stand.

 

We cannot exceed our own boundaries. We can be relieved it is over. The past does not exist save for the complicity of living tissue.