2020 Election

I sort of feel like a lot of what Sanders is doing is meant to be symbolic. I honestly think it's sort of rhetorical to be the outlandish socialist. It gets the wheels spinning in peoples' minds. It puts the issues that he wants discussed on the dinner tables of Americans. And I think his intentions are excellent. He's really outstanding! But I don't think a presidency will be possible. I'd vote for him, but I doubt my parents would. Maybe...

 

He did bring eccentricity to the game. He would have made an interesting president.

 

that's where we differ. I think he's bringing a lot more than just simple eccentricity. Because he's not really eccentric. He has this vision! And he wants people to see it, and now people are beginning to.

I don't think it's this unstoppable force. People are sort of on the fence when it comes to anything that says "I'm a Socialist!". And that's what Bernie's doing.

But he wants to fix a lot of problems. I don't think that's eccentricity. He believes that can happen. How it happens is the problem. Karl Marx would say that revolution is necessary. I don't ever want that lol. Some kind of weird uprising? Like in Hong Kong? I would hate that.

But anyway. Fixing the problems of America seems to be the endgame. He's got solutions, just not a way to implement them.

 

The electoral college isn't chosen from among the local trailer park trash. They are serious party members, who have been rejecting him all along. Not all republicans are so insane as to believe he represents anyone's future, especially those who are actual party members that don't just talk the talk so many online trolls.

 

No, they are serious party hacks who are pledged to support the party candidate. At present, most Republicans are (incredibly) solidly behind Trump, although some are unhappy about Syria. If Trump is the Party's nominee, the electors will support him, with extremely rare exceptions. That's how it works.

 

Donald Duck is the flaming exception. Republicans are always reluctant to break ranks, because they will punish each other, just like a flock of chickens according to forty years of extensive studies. Not only are the party leaders, who supposedly lead the flock, breaking ranks, even the people the asshole hired are openly defying his orders to not talk to congress and spilling ALL the beans. Either the chickenshit assholes still obey the flock hierarchy or its a chaotic lynch mob, in which case, even the electorate is unpredictable. In either case, it is clear he has lost enough support already that he will never win the popular vote and the electoral college will never dare to promote him above the will of the people and their own party leaders.

 

You're living in an alternate uni

You're must be living in an alternate universe. There's no evidence this is happening in ours. Wish it would, though! If Trump loses the popular vote but wins a majority of the electors for the different states, virtually all of the electors will vote for him, just like last time and all the times before that.

 

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A monster in your words could defeat Clinton in a general election.

 

Like the talking heads say, Donald Duck threw Giuliani under the bus, and all the low level civil servants are coming out of the woodwork the minute they have no choice but to talk to congress or face jail time. The man is poison, everybody knows it, and they all now wish they had never voted republican, much less, taken a job from Donald Duck. Again, I call him Donald Duck, because he is the quintessential loose cannon on deck, the destroyer of worlds threatening to sink the ship. Clinton got a blow job, Donald Duck committed treason and is inciting civil war, which is a hanging offence. Fox News and even McConnell are speaking out against the man, which is an indication of just how deeply divided the republican party has become. Exactly how divided, will have to wait, because they never break ranks unless forced to, but the roaring silence is deafening.

 

I'm not sure what you mean.
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Why was Clinton defeated by Trump of all people?

 

Because our entire voting system is now rigged, gerrymandered to death, and our constitution shredded to pieces. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the system, and Donald Duck promised to attack the same congress led by his own party. Film at 11:00 on Fox, which isn't real news, so you can't criticize them for spouting nonsense, like the rest of our government. That's Enter... tainment! I want more porn stars in office myself. I'm a lover, not a fighter.

 

Australia is no better.

 

All roads lead to Rome and, when in the empire, do as the Romans do. Sadly, corrupt government is the best anyone has managed yet.

 

Or maybe it was because Trump gave interviews and campaigned in "flyover" country. Hillary campaigned by proxy and didn't bother going to places with small populations (which is exactly the sort of thing the electoral college filters, by proxy).

Imagine though, where we might be if NASA had not rejected Hillary as a little girl when she wanted to be an astronaut!

 

A number of factors seem to have been involved, besides the one mentioned by ************: (1) The Electoral College. Clinton actually received nearly 3 million popular votes more than Trump, but because of the distribution of the votes among the states and the resulting makeup of the electoral college she lost. Swing states such as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, previously Democrat but Republican in 2016, cost her the election. (2) Trump's Appeal.Trump drew his support from three main groups: (a) older whites, especially men, who were threatened by neo-liberalism, immigration and minorities; (b) Evangelicals who wanted to pack the Supreme Court and reverse liberal decisions on social issues like abortion and gay rights; and (c) elements of the 1% who wanted tax cuts. (3) Hillary's weakness . Hillary, to put it mildly, was not an attractive candidate to important components of the electorate. She is not a warm person, and seemed to be the virtual embodiment of the neo-liberal establishment. To many voters it was a choice between two monsters: the fire breathing orange one or the cold-blooded, calculating one in the pants suits. (4) Republican smear campaigns. For decades, she'd been singled out for special demonization by the Republican propaganda machine. No sooner had her husband been elected President than the bumper stickers appeared: IMPEACH CLINTON AND HER HUSBAND TOO. In the 20th century, after the "Republican revolution of '95, there were the interminable Whitewater hearings by multiple committees which investigated her to death but turned up nothing. Rumors even circulated that she had murdered the Clinton lawyer associate Vice Foster, whose death was ruled a suicide. In the present century, there were the Benghazi hearings and the continuing saga over her emails; (5) The Times. The election occurred in the eighth year of the Obama Administration, to which Hillary would be the logical successor. Two wars were still dragging on, the economic recovery was slow and uneven, the establishment seemed destined to win no matter what, and many still felt left behind. Time for a shakeup, and who better to do it than the chaos candidate. (6) Events: Dirty tricks and the perfect storm. Remember the hacking of the DNC server, Wikileaks release of stolen documents, all the Enquirer articles about her failing health, Pizzagate, and the Comey memo, released on October 28, days before the election. Our National Security agencies said Russian trolls and bots were even involved. Has there been anything comparable to this in history? Did I answer your question?

 

Don't take up gambling. Most of those small towns would stomp the federal government into the dirt if given the slightest opportunity. Not that I can blame them, with Monsanto and Walmart being the best representations they have of the fed.

 

Or just bleed it dry with noncompliance.