2020 Election

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  1. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    You cannot attack what you cannot comprehend, which is why AI is the future, because there never was any intelligent life around here. Those who know, don't talk about it, those who talk about it, don't know, while those who never stop talking, talking themselves into corners. The US is proof that the insane have always run the asylum.
     
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  2. Meliai

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    I'll never understand why we have to prove we pick up litter and do local volunteer work in order to discuss politics on hipforums
     
  3. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I remember the days when every single genuine Hippy disagreed with Reagan and his Republicans. During the sixties and seventies the Republican Rednecks used to attack and beat Hippies. Sometimes they would drive them after the beating … to a Selective Service Recruiting Center. Sometimes they would cut their hair, after kicking their teeth out. Today, I am totally mystified by the ones who claim to be Hippy and at the same time support that orange piece of work.
     
  4. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I deleted a few posts that were discussing forum guidelines, etc.
    If anyone has complaints about moderation please take it up with a mod or mods and or the site owners via private message.
     
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  5. Piney

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    Currently feeling no sympathy for Lisa Paige. Enjoy your taxpayer paid pension. This is the real divide: The pensioned deep state vs the real workers of America who will rely on social security.

    Quit your cushy job if you don't personally like who is president. or stay off electronic communication with your conspiracy theories

    Shame what happened to Roger Stone.

    Since when are hippies in bed with the security state?

     
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  6. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So is it your contention that all government workers be robots with no personal opinions or lives?
    Do you condone this type of behavior from our president?

    Do you approve of Trump attacking her in public, calling her treasonous with no bases in fact?
    Did you know she did resign?

    What are you talking about in regards to hippies?
     
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  7. Flagme15

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    Well said, and I agree 100%.
    This brings up a question for the kids of today. If you don't like trump, and his policies, why aren't you out there protesting?
     
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  8. Flagme15

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    Why is that guy with the hat rocking?
     
  9. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Most Hippies rely on Social Security benefits, because Republican Corporate America has ripped them off their entire life. When the company files for bankruptcy like Trump has so many times, people lose their retirement, and be unemployed, and go to look for new work. It is hard to save for retirement when you get laid off. As far as your Deep State remark, Piney; I say there is no such thing as the Deep State. The term is an invention of Jerome Corsi who was a Trump operative. Stone, Corsi, Alex Jones, and that foolish fake movie producer O'Keefe were doing the same thing as the Russians. They were spreading false information to deceive voters and make Trump look good.
     
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  10. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Libertarians have rigged our elections and shredded the constitution, with the result that Bloomberg got a mere slap on the wrist for arresting 26 reporters in one day, while Fox News is legally entertainment, and 80 million people now insist our glorious leader should be above the law altogether. Who do you suggest they protest to? Neither the mass media, democratic, nor republican party represent anyone they know. You can't have a democracy in which 80 million people don't want a democracy. Believe it or not, democracy is about people agreeing to the rule of law.

    Their own parents have put them 20 trillion dollars in debt, taken away their votes, built the largest prison system in the history of the planet, and deny global warming is real. Doesn't exactly encourage faith in the system. Vietnam and the civil rights movement got a lot of them off their asses, so I guess we'll have to wait for WWIII or the ecology to collapse.
     
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  11. Flagme15

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    what the hell are you talking about?
    Do you have a Nixon tattoo on your back also?
     
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  12. Meliai

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    Meagain said something like this the other day.
    Where have you guys been? There have been multiple, sizeable Trump protests since he was elected. And there have been sizeable youth centric protests against his policies in general. Environmental protests, gun control protests.
     
  13. Meliai

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    This okay boomer narrative that the youth dont protest is just..a big wtf. It isnt grounded in reality at all
     
  14. stormountainman

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    I saw there was outcry among the Republicans because Joe Biden nibbled on his wife's finger in public. The Republicans who saw nothing wrong with Trump having sex outside of marriage , AND paying the women for it. The Republicans also saw nothing wrong with Trump's public praise of Jefferey Epstein's choice in women … on the younger side. Now they comment about old Joe, who loves his wife. God help a Democrat who displays open affection for his own wife instead of a porn star.
     
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  15. MeAgain

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    I agree there have been a few protests, and they seem to have stopped. But nothing like the '60's.
    Here's a few highlights of antiwar protests:
    • An 82-year-old Detroit woman named Alice Herz self-immolated.
    • Norman Morrison, a thirty-two-year-old pacifist, father of three, stood below the third-floor windows of Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, doused himself with kerosene, and set himself afire, giving up his life in protest against the war.[6]
    • Thousands of students protested Dow Chemical (maker of napalm) recruiting on campus. Nineteen police officers and about 50 students were treated for injuries at hospitals.[23][24]
    • Stop the Draft Week demonstrations in New York. 585 arrested, amongst them Benjamin Spock.
    • Philip Berrigan and his brother, Daniel, led seven others into a draft board office in Catonsville, Maryland, removed records, and set them afire with homemade napalm outside in front of reporters and onlookers.[6]
    • Democratic National Convention in Chicago. Violent clashes.
    • Nine protesters smashed glass, hurled files out a fourth floor window, and poured blood on files and furniture at the Dow Chemical offices in Washington, D.C.
    • The Old Main building at SIU burns to the ground.
    • February, March. Wave of bombings across the USA.
    • Two American merchant marine sailors named Clyde McKay and Alvin Glatkowski seized the SS Columbia Eagle and forced the master to sail in to Cambodia as opposed to Thailand, where it was on its way to deliver napalm bombs to be used by the US Air Force in Vietnam.[28]
    • New York. Hard Hat Riot: after a student anti-war demonstration, workers attack them and riot for two hours.
    • 75 to 100,000 demonstrators converged on Washington, D.C. to protest the Kent State shootings and the Nixon administration's incursion into Cambodia. Even though the demonstration was quickly put together, protesters were still able to bring out thousands to march in the Capital. It was an almost spontaneous response to the events of the previous week. Police ringed the White House with buses to block the demonstrators from getting too close to the executive mansion.
    • 20-30,000 Mexican-Americans participated in the largest antiwar demonstration in Los Angeles. Police are attacked with clubs and guns and kill three people, including Rubén Salazar, a TV news director and LA Times reporter.[30]
    • Weatherman plants a bomb in the Capitol building in Washington, D.C., causing $300,000 in damage, but no casualties.
    • Peaceful Vietnam War Out Now rally on the National Mall, Washington, D.C., with 200,000 calling for an end to the Vietnam War, 156,000 participate in the largest demonstration so far on the West Coast, in San Francisco.[31]
    • More militant attempts in Washington, D. C. to shut down the government are futile against 5,000 police and 12,000 troops.
    The list of civil rights unrest is just too large to even start to show here, just look at the years from 1960 t0 1969. Some highlights:
    • First Selma-to-Montgomery March, Protesters Jimmie Lee Jackson and his mother fled the scene to hide in a nearby café. Alabama State Trooper corporal James Bonard Fowler followed Jackson into the café and shot him, saying he thought the protester was trying to get his gun as they grappled.
    • County Sheriff Jim Clark had issued an order for all white males in Dallas County over the age of twenty-one to report to the courthouse that morning to be deputized. Commanding officer John Cloud told the demonstrators to disband at once and go home. Rev. Hosea Williams tried to speak to the officer, but Cloud curtly informed him there was nothing to discuss. Seconds later, the troopers began shoving the demonstrators, knocking many to the ground and beating them with nightsticks. Another detachment of troopers fired tear gas, and mounted troopers charged the crowd on horseback.[56][57][page needed]
    • Televised images of the brutal attack presented Americans and international audiences with horrifying images of marchers left bloodied and severely injured, and roused support for the Selma Voting Rights Campaign. Amelia Boynton, who had helped organize the march as well as marching in it, was beaten unconscious. A photograph of her lying on the road of the Edmund Pettus Bridge appeared on the front page of newspapers and news magazines around the world.[8][58] In all, 17 marchers were hospitalized and 50 treated for lesser injuries; the day soon became known as "Bloody Sunday" within the black community.[7]
    • ...three white Unitarian Universalist ministers in Selma for the march were attacked on the street and beaten with clubs by four KKK members.[68] The worst injured was Reverend James Reeb from Boston. Fearing that Selma's public hospital would refuse to treat Reeb, activists took him to Birmingham's University Hospital, two hours away. Reeb died on Thursday, March 11 at University Hospital, with his wife by his side.[69]
    • On March 15 and 16, SNCC led several hundred demonstrators, including Alabama students, Northern students, and local adults, in protests near the capitol complex. The Montgomery County sheriff's posse met them on horseback and drove them back, whipping them.
    • Later that night, Viola Liuzzo, a white mother of five from Detroit who had come to Alabama to support voting rights for blacks, was assassinated by Ku Klux Klan members while she was ferrying marchers back to Selma from Montgomery.
    • Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. assassinated.
     
  16. Meliai

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    I dont really want to get into a pissing contest, I didnt realize it was a competition. I was just pointing out protests still occur, rather large ones at that. Some of them nationwide and worldwide.
    I'm glad we arent seeing waves of bombings or people setting themselves on fire with napalm. We also haven't seen a war on the scale of the Vietnam War since the Vietnam War that would inspire anything that extreme, thankfully.
    In terms of Civil Rights protests, I would compare anti cop protests that occurred in Ferguson and elsewhere. There have been multiple ones. But thankfully there isnt as much of a need for Civil Rights protests. If there were still the same need, the protestors of the 50s and 60s would be disappointed with the lack of progress
     
  17. Meliai

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    Plus I dont really think protesting is going to accomplish the changes this country needs to see. Basically we just have to wait 10 - 15 more years until younger people with more progressive ideals outnumber older people in the voting boot.
    The irony here being it is boomers who are preventing progress.
     
  18. everything bagel

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    Did any of those protests accomplish anything?
     
  19. If things continue as they are, you'll never see the young outnumbering the old. The last 3 generations stopped having lots of children.
     
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    Back in the sixties we were boycotting classes. I haven't heard of that happening. The only protests I've heard about are when the millenials complain about you tube, or instagram are down.
    Btw, I have no problem being called a boomer. It is what it is.
    I take it your parents are boomers.
     
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