2020 Election

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  1. lode

    lode Banned

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    Republicans definitely don't know that.
     
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  2. Piney

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    My Friend, I do not condone the behavior of Trump, its terrible, low class. But we should admit experiences with a recent administration. Paying a pro seems less ugly than prowling for an intern or a vunerable government employee. But we got over it and celebrated peace and prosperity in The 90's
    Our press brahimins po-poed the scandals and lapdog media celebrated Ms. Lewinsky. This was the set-up to our current shitty situation.

    Concerning old Joe, is his wife the boss? Would our celebrated press corps dare to report that a President is not the boss in his own family and the ramifications for governance. Our press corps can go on a theratical rant about tax returns. The more difficult and important reporting is family dynamics and internal power structure. The Press has failed us in this regard, I am not impressed.
     
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  3. Piney

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    Correct my friend

    But recovery was too slow.
     
  4. Piney

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    My friend, perhaps our diferences of opinion in this matter are the result of the media we each consume.

    Our bigger concern is our economy moving foreward and to include more Americans in a better economy.
     
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    Remembering the mortgage and equity crash vividly.
     
  6. Okiefreak

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    the Republicans who controlled Congress 6 of the 8 years made sure of that!
     
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    And do you also remember Republican Treasury Secretary Paulson's breathless announcement of it in the last year of G.W.'w Administration along with the "your money or the economy" warning to Congress?


    Yes. While the press corps busies itself with things like bribery, extortion, and foreign involvement in our politics, the Trumpster media is onto the big stuff, like what goes on in the bedroom and who rules the roost at home. Speculation about power dynamics in a marital relationship is the stuff of tabloid speculation, and drawing inferences from a playful nibble on the finger is really scraping the bottom.

    As for our economy moving forward, that can change on a dime, and has little to do with the Prez. Every time Trump talks tariffs, the stock market dips.
     
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  8. Piney

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    I don't have any sources to post up, but I seem to remember that the repudiation of Republican governance was so complete in 2008 that Mr. Obama and Democrats were swept into office with huge majorities. They could pass the ACA without a single Republican vote. It was only later that these commanding majorities were eaten away.
     
  9. Okiefreak

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    A short walk down memory lane would make you aware that even before Obama took office, the Republican congressional delegation got together and resolved to block Obama at every turn, using the manifold tricks in the legislative arsenal--and they did. I believe there was even an attempt to block extension of the debt limit, thereby damaging our Moody's credit rating. You may also remember years of warnings during the Bush Administration about the impending crisis in journals like the Economist, and the resulting inaction by the deregulatory-minded Bush Administration in league with the high rollers in the banking and mortgage industries. And it could easily happen again.
     
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  10. Piney

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    kinda sounds like what is happein today, The Resistance. Yes its hardly in service to the country when politicians are at each others throat.

    Remembering well our Housing Equity Crisis, It is a shame when our regulators fail to stop the runaway housing inflation.

    Our credit rating can be seen as the result of a large debt burden that continues to grow. taking a non-partisan view of our debt burden.
     
  11. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    The way I see it is Bob Dole started it all. He's the one who put together new banking regulations which were extensive and complicated. The new laws removed caps on interest rates so banks could screw the public. Dole was also behind removing student loans from bankrupt students. Lots of what he gave us was anti-people and pro-business. Clinton went along because he was beaten by the impeachment process. In them days Rush Lamebutt attacked Clinton around the clock.
     
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    Reps were nasty to Mr. Clinton. Ugly.
     
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    I agree with much of what you say. There is no other explanation. This country is divided and suffering from Bi-Polar disease. It would be nice if the conservative voters start backing the old guard sensible Republicans instead of these Tea Partiers. I remember when Republicans were very much in favor of equal treatment for the Negro. When Charles Colson and Jerry Falwell convinced Nixon to invite the Klansmen things took a turn for the worst. They wanted the white silent majority and its sidekick the moral majority to help the Republican Party recover after Watergate. Back before Nixon it wasn't unusual to see Republicans who were Anti-war and for free speech, and for women's rights. Some of our best laws passed during the sixties and seventies.
     
  14. So were a LOT of democrats. That's the difference this time around. Back when Clinton was impeached, it was a bipartisan effort. It was still a waste of time and resources, but so too has been this lame-ass attempt to "get" Trump. He's gonna skate, easily. Because democrats totally jumped the gun and because barely 4 republicans agree with their premise.
     
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    It isnt that they disagree, it's that they all cowardly hitched their star to Trump and now their careers are tied to him so if he goes down they'll go down indirectly with him.

    The one Republican who was principled enough to leave the party because of Trump will also be voting for his impeachment

    Ex-GOP congressman Amash plans to vote for three articles of impeachment
     
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    Well, let's remember the Democrats look into facts and form their own opinions. The Republicans under Trump just mouth the Russian and Trump talking points and will defend him until the end. No amount of facts or admissions by Trump and his partners in crime will sway them.
     
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  17. Amash is a bigger loser than Romney when it comes to impersonating a politician.

    However, he's not alone with stabbing Trump in the back. There's a long line of republicans who know he's not one of them and strive to find ways to fuck with him. And yet, most steer far from impeachment. Probably because it polls badly and Americans are tired of the circus. They want to know when jobs they can trust will ever arrive.

    Others want to know why we send so much money overseas when we have all the poor, homeless and incarcerated people the system can sustain (and yet, we seem to want more).

    What's really weird to me about our government overall is how they could have missed a maniac like "Porn Stache", but managed to send DHS to my house twice, while I was out of the country, to ask my wife why we are sending money through Western Union to places like Tunisia, Turkey and Lebanon. It's how you pay people who can translate well in Arabic. Every time those bureaucratic dick-wads came to the door my wife instantly worried that I had been kidnapped (not uncommon for fat Americans) or worse.

    Then she realized it was just them being needlessly "efficient", printed the invoices and asked them to leave.

    I don't have those problems anymore. I'm going to stay in America for awhile. Seems like an exciting place in a few spots!
     
  18. Most humorous. They're all about the emotions, we all know that. The republicans are all wet blankets, but democrats are the sort to chastise someone out of a restaurant, proudly.
     
  19. Meliai

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    That's an, uh, interesting spin on things
     
  20. What spin? The only real friends he had in Washington were democrats. None of the republicans wanted him. Just look at how they sit on their asses.
     
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