2020 Election

The simplified form is, the left wants to control you financially and give you freedom socially, the right wants to control you socially and give you freedom financially, and the libertarian wants to give you freedom socially and financially.

 

Which of course is the best option by far.

 

"There's a red house over yonder
That's where my baby stays"

 

I used to think of myself as socially progressive and fiscally conservative. But in recent years, social progressives have proven they believe stupid things like men and women exactly are the same, but when a little boy plays with dolls he must be transgender. Or that they only way to empower women is to marginalize men. The only way to empower minorities is to marginalize whites. The only way to gays is to marginalize straights. They’ll support giving better assistance to illegal immigrants than to disabled veterans. They’ll tell you that religion is stupid, but will silence you if you dare criticize Islam.


And so forth and so on

 

Only if we want to further the destruction of our country.

 

Then there are moderates, who don't believe any of those things, but believe in fiscal responsibility, preserving institutional integrity, providing a safety net for the vulnerable in society, and treating people of all colors and creeds decently. How dull!

 

As usual you're acting like a minority of leftists represent the general left. While you know this isn't true.
But another thought: you now aren't socially progressive anymore because some other socially progressives go about it the wrong way? Lol... I'm not sure how that serves you or society? Wouldn't it make more sense to just disagree with others and go with your own socially progressive ideas (which many fellow citizens might share)...
Maybe your biggest problem is that you think too rigidly in generalisations and stereotypes. I mean if you really believe you cant be a socially progressive anymore because some libtards are doing it wrong.

 

Biden leads widely in national survey
Support could help him weather losses in Iowa and other early-voting states as Sanders gains ground.
By Janet Hook
WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Joe Biden holds a substantial national lead over his opponents in the Democratic presidential campaign, buoyed by support among voters whose top priority is to beat President Trump, according to a new USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll.
The nationwide poll comes just days before the first votes of the 2020 nominating contest are cast in the Feb. 3 Iowa caucuses, and many voters are agonizing over who would be best equipped to beat Trump.
Even as polls in Iowa and other early-voting states, as well as California, show a much closer race in those places, where Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont has gained ground, Biden’s support among black voters and people who want a candidate who can beat Trump have kept him in the lead nationwide, the new poll finds.
Backing from those groups, which significantly overlap, could help Biden weather political storms if he has a weak showing in Iowa on Monday and, a week later, in New Hampshire, where polls show the former vice president also faces stiff competition.
“If he could win Iowa, he would have a pretty good path to the nomination,” said Bob Shrum, director of the Center for the Political Future at USC, which sponsored the poll. “But if he loses Iowa or performs poorly there, will these [national] numbers change, or are they a firewall?”
The new poll, however, also backs up an argument made by Biden’s top rivals — that he is not the only one who could beat Trump. The survey found that Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts also outpolled Trump in hypothetical head-to-head matchups, although by narrower margins than Biden.
Biden’s argument is not faring so well in delegate-rich California. A new UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll for the Los Angeles Times put Sanders in the lead, backed by 26% of people likely to vote in the state’s March 6 Democratic primary, followed by Warren with 20% and Biden trailing with 15%.
Overall, the nationwide poll finds the top-tier candidates aligning in much the way they did when USC last polled in October. Among likely Democratic primary voters, 34% say they support or are leaning toward Biden. Sanders and Warren are essentially tied, with 18% and 16%, respectively; Pete Buttigieg trails with 9%; Amy Klobuchar gets 3%.
The biggest change comes in the emergence of Michael R. Bloomberg, the billionaire businessman and former New York mayor, who entered the race in November. He has caught up to Buttigieg, drawing support from 9% of likely primary voters. Like Biden, his strongest selling point is his perceived electability: 24% of Bloomberg’s voters say they chose him because they believe he could beat Trump. Half as many said they picked him because he shares their values.
Because the survey questions the same panel of people in each poll, it can track how their preferences change. An analysis of Bloomberg’s supporters finds that 38% had backed Biden in October; 22% had backed Warren; and 22% had been undecided.
With the primary season about to begin in earnest, the ranks of undecided voters are dwindling. The poll finds 14% remain undecided, down from 21% in October. Those who remain on the fence seem most likely to go to Biden: When asked who they would pick if they had to decide today, 26% said Biden, 16% said Sanders, 9% said Warren. Buttigieg and Bloomberg each got 7%.
The field has shrunk as low-polling candidates began to drop out. Sanders, Biden and Warren all got a boost when former Rep. Beto O’Rourke quit in November.
Warren got the biggest boost when Sen. Kamala Harris of California left the field in December, with 29% of the people who backed Harris in October now supporting Warren. Buttigieg picked up 16% of Harris’ voters, while 13% went to Biden and 16% to Sanders.
It is less clear who will benefit most from Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey ending his campaign in January. More than half of his supporters remain undecided.
Booker and Harris, who are both black, had hoped to challenge Biden for support among black voters. But Biden has kept a firm grip on this key demographic: The poll finds that 53% of black voters support Biden, compared with 19% for Sanders and 10% for Warren.
Black voters make up a majority of the Democratic electorate in some Southern states and a large share in the big industrial states of the Midwest and Northeast.
But Sanders is making progress with other communities of color: Among Latino voters, 28% back Biden and 29% back Sanders.
Although Warren is making a more direct appeal to women in her closing campaign argument in Iowa, the poll finds her lagging behind Biden among female voters. Warren runs strongest among white women: 21% back Warren, second only to the 27% who favor Biden. But Biden has a gigantic lead among black women: 53%, compared with 18% for Sanders and 12% for Warren.
“The theory that women vote their genetic code is not what the voters tell us,” said Mike Murphy, a Republican strategist who co-directs the Center for the Political Future.
Asked the main reason behind their choice of a candidate, 17% of voters say their preferred candidate “represents my own values and beliefs very well,” 17% say the candidate “has the best chance of defeating Donald Trump,” and 15% say the person “is the best candidate to bring major changes to the U.S.”
Among people voting their values, Warren did best, winning 27%.
Biden ran away with voters who gave priority to beating Trump, with 67% of them backing him. Bloomberg came in second among beat-Trump voters with 14%.
But he seems to inspire less enthusiasm than better-established candidates.
When Democrats were asked to rate on a scale of 0-100 how enthusiastic they were about their choice of candidates, supporters of Biden, Sanders, Warren and Klobuchar averaged more than 60; Bloomberg supporters averaged 47. Similarly, on a 0-100 scale measuring overall excitement about the campaign, Bloomberg voters averaged 47 — on the bored side — while Biden, Sanders and Warren voters averaged close to 60.
Looking ahead to the general election, when voters of both parties were asked to choose between Trump and each of five top Democratic candidates, the challengers all outpolled the president, but only Biden, Sanders and Warren did so by a statistically significant margin. Biden fared slightly better than Sanders and Warren. Trump trailed Biden by 9 percentage points, Sanders by 7 points, Warren by 4 points, Buttigieg by 3 points and Klobuchar by 2 points, the poll found.
Those matchups underscore the importance of gender in 2020: Women favor all of the Democrats over Trump by double-digit margins. Men back Trump, but by single-digit margins.
At a time when Democrats are debating whether it would be harder for a woman to beat Trump, the poll found that Trump got more support from men when he was matched against a woman. Men favored Trump by 1 point against Biden, 5 points against Sanders and 6 points against Buttigieg. But men favored Trump by 7 points against Warren and 9 against Klobuchar.

 

Actually it isn't social progressives who believe this. It's what people like you believe progressives believe. You believe this. We don't. You dont oppose just... just your misunderstanding of what we are

 

Exactly

 

I really hope its sincere misunderstanding

 

You know it isnt lol

 

The democrats need to corral the vote leeches and start consolidating the message for the front runner. I still say Biden is their only choice.

 

Sanders, Biden are neck-and-neck in new NBC/WSJ national poll

 

Trump is going to win in a landslide. Biden is too old and is attached to too much corruption. The rest want to attract voters by giving them free stuff. Trumps rally in NJ had 175,000 ticket requests. Biden can't fill a school gymnasium.

 

Neither could Hillary and yet, according to NPR this morning, "she BEAT Trump in the Popular Vote". Granted, that's not how you win an election, it still feels good!

What I'm really getting at is that Hillary barely campaigned. She didn't need to. Every democrat in the nation KNEW it was "her turn" to be president. They didn't have to be wooed into voting for her with huge rallies or gimme program promises. Those votes were already locked in tight. Obama had to campaign much harder than Hillary since he was an unknown rookie being pushed into office by every leftist and democrat crony with an agenda.

I agree that Trump is going to win this handily if nothing changes (like an assassination/attempt).

I used to like Bernie since he was not a hard core establishment politician. But that was 2016, today I only see a frail old dude who can be subdued easily by a couple of little girls. Putin would eat him like a snack.

 

And it kinda belies the contention that she was overwhelmingly unpopular, or that he was overwhelmingly popular.

And then we'll really be inf or it.

Does Trump impress you as a picture of health--physical or mental? Putin has already consumed him.

 

Interesting how you seemingly just hard-contradicted yourself in these two adjacent posts.

That is, if I'm understanding your meaning which I interpret as the current president will further the destruction of this country (first post), all while the evidence shows our president is championing "fiscal responsibility, preserving institutional integrity, providing a safety net for the vulnerable in society, and treating people of all colors and creeds decently".

Not sure how you can clarify your position from here. :-/

 

Anyone who thinks the current president should be replaced with one of the Democrat contenders should watch this:


Start at 22:00 or so.