2020 Election

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  1. Meliai

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    I actually think you need to clarify your position. How is the president doing.....any of that?
     
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  2. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Listen to the video above, then express your concerns. Cool?
     
  3. Meliai

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    No thanks. Are you not able to explain in your own words?
     
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  4. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Oh. Okay. So you want me to take my time to educate you but you won't bother to listen directly in order to educate yourself.

    What can this unknown entity (me) convey to you that you'll take to heart? I know... you aren't listening to me.

    Listen or remain ignorant; it's up to you. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

    And no... I know you want to accuse me, but no, I'm not calling you a horse! :)
     
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  5. Meliai

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    I'm not asking you to "educate me," I'm asking you to back up your own claims with your own words as one is generally expected to do in a discussion forum.

    If you cant, that's cool. I get it
     
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  6. Flagme15

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    Source, or is that wishful thinking on your part?
    I hope you know that the candidates cheerleaders(especially those in the front rows) are bought and paid for by the campaign committees.
    pure propaganda
     
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  7. If that's indeed the case, why aren't the democrats buying more cheerleaders? With all that leftist money floating around to bus in antifa or stage "peaceful" protests (that often seem to include flying objects and fires), it seems like they could afford some hired spectators. You know, so the room won't seem so empty!
     
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    How, exactly, is two hours worth of lies backing up your claim?
     
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  9. Flagme15

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    You are quoting what he is telling you with little proof that he is doing any of that,
    But let's break it down.
    Championing fiscal responsibility-fiscal responsibility is a personal decision. One can spend every dime they have, or they can save their money. The president(any president) has nothing to do with that.

    Preserving institutional integrity-what the hell does that mean?

    Providing a safety net for the vulnerable in society-you mean like cutting Medicaid,and talking about wanting to cut Medicare, and SS?

    Treating people of all colors and creeds decently-you mean by banning, and deporting people who are non white?

    You have taken the bait, hook, line, and sinker.
    Instead of spewing bs, do some investigation. I don't have the time to educate you.
     
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  10. Flagme15

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    I haven't heard of an antifa member getting in a car, and killing someone, but that's just me.
    I must digress however. I could fill up a stadium with a bunch of cows. It doesn't mean the cows care about what I am saying.
     
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  11. Meliai

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    I just realized the video you posted that supposedly supports your claims and will serve to educate me is ...a full fucking Trump rally :tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:
     
  12. That wasn't digressing, it was a cheap shot with some seriously odd context. It's like me linking Queen Elizabeth to goldfish dying in the Flint river.

    However, cows are a perfect analogy for paid cheerleaders.
     
  13. 6-eyed shaman

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    No more than 5 years ago, I considered myself socially progressive because I found myself agreeing more with liberals on certain issues like stem cell research, reducing military spending and interventionism, gay marriage, drug legalization, no punishments for victimless crimes, and living your life however you want as long as you're not harming those around you. The right to bear arms was the main social issues I heavily agreed with the right on. But now that gay marriage and marijuana are legal, those aren't issues that are heavily discussed on the forefront anymore, and political culture of progressivism has definitely changed for the worse.
     
  14. stormountainman

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    I would call him a brazen bull shitter.
     
  15. Okiefreak

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    lol. You're joking, right? You can't be serious. "(T) he evidence shows our president is championing 'fiscal responsibility, preserving institutional integrity, providing a safety net for the vulnerable in society, and treating people of all colors and creeds decently'??!!!!!!!!!!!! You must be living in a cave without TV or news service, or in an alternate universe:
    • Fiscal reponsibility. All the evidence shows that our President is one of the most fiscally irresponsible people to sit in the Oval Office. This from the conservative, Republican, business-oriented Forbes magazine. Trump May Be The Most Fiscally Reckless President In American History His policies have raised the annual budget deficit to a new normal of over $1trillion, with $2 trillion definitely within view, during a period of full employment, which is really hard to do. The national debt now stands at stands at more than $22 trillion. If the debt goes up in times of plenty, what happens in times of crisis?
    • Institutional integrity. Yesterday, Trump's defenders in the Senate essentially argued that he is above the law, immune from accountability to Congress. He continues to pack the judiciary with unqualifed hacks and claims sweeping powers of executive privilege. Trump’s Go-To Strategy Remains: Undermining Our Institutions When US intelligence agencies reported that they had overwhelming evidence that the Russian government interfered in last year’s election , he tried to destroy their reputation. He unconstituionally diverted money appropriated by Congress for the military to build his fucking wall, and illegally tried to withhold money appropriated for the defense of Ukraine to pressure the president of that country to help dig up dirt on his political opponent.
    • Safety net. Trump's attack on the safety net cost millions of people their food stamps, unemployment benefits, and Medicaid coverage.Archive ety-net-and-blue-states-are-fighting-back/ My Turn: Trump’s tax cuts undermine America Democrats blast safety net cuts in Trump budget as 'malicious' Trump's tax cuts and budget deficit make entitlement cuts a likely prospect, and he recently said he planned to take a look at cuts in those programs soon
    • .Treating people of all colors and creeds decently. Trump launched his political career with his absurd birther challenge to President Obama's citizenship and launched his presidential campaign by his infamous escalator speech denouncing Hispanic immigrants as criminals and rapists. He disparaged a Muslim gold star family, and suggested that an Hispanic judge could not be impartial. His Muslim travel ban had to be overturned in the courts.Here Are 16 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | HuffPost Opinion | Donald Trump’s Racism: The Definitive List, Updated
    So I hope that clarifies my position that the Trumpster is a fiscally irresponsible Putin-loving racist scumbag who is destroying our American institutions. Wake up and smell the coffee while there's still some left!
     
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  16. soulcompromise

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    He talks out the side of his neck @TrudginAcrossTheTundra! :) I don't think he's capable of telling the truth.

    I didn't watch the video - I'll pass - but I'm sure when you like what you're seeing you can bet it'll be either blamed on Democrats when it can't get past Congress, or that he just won't deliver on it. Remember the wall? And how Mexico was going to pay? I do. I remember everyone thought that was such a clever idea. But not President Nieto (I don't think it was Obrador). And no one in Mexico. And he knows that. It's one sided. It's not a good deal for any type of bureaucratic interaction. It's not diplomatic. It's an attempt to get into your head and it failed.
     
  17. tumbling.dice

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    I watched the first 10 seconds just because I was curious as to where they would position the black person. Right behind Pence's right shoulder. Shit must be getting serious!
     
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  18. Okiefreak

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    Watch a Trump propaganda video? The sad thing is that anybody takes it seriously. Do you?
     
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  20. tumbling.dice

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    For anyone who is actually going to vote in 2020 please turn off the Fox News, CNN, RT and those god awful YouTube channels created by people that no one has ever heard of that push nonsense. Think for yourself.

    Facts Matter.
    The Voter's Self Defense System
     
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