2020 Election

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  1. lode

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  2. stormountainman

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    No, you got that wrong. Communism is to use the state to liberate people from opiate-like religion and domination by abusive capitalism. It does not replace the family. And with its final goal, communism would create an environment where all people are free and equal. Communism says government should serve all people, not just the rich.
     
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  3. tumbling.dice

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    By sending them to Siberia?

    All people—excluding the millions murdered.
     
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    Marx never said anything of the sort. The revolutions in Russia and China were not true communism. There has never been a true communist state anywhere in the world.
     
  6. Asmodean

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    Soviet Russia is not exactly how communism was supposed to be. Not that I think communism as envisioned by its creators would be as ideal as they theorized, but im just saying Stormountainman seems to be talking about how communism was ment to be, not the perverted soviet version.
     
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    Capitalist America sees nothing wrong with killing millions of Muslims in order to liberate them. Now that's a fact. Capitalist America killed 23 million natives just to steal anything and everything they owned. I bet they would prefer communism.
     
  8. tumbling.dice

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    Yeah, how it's supposed to be. Let's not forget that. Why do these same people never push what laissez-faire capitalism was supposed to be? Everyone seems so ready to enforce their ideals without taking human nature into consideration. Very dangerous.
     
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    Thank you. I was thinking of Das Capital and Communisto Manifesto. What happened during the Bolshevik revolution is not a definition of communism. If America is an example of capitalism I'd say it stinks. All the wealth is flowing toward the already rich.
     
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    But real communism sucks too. One political party system? An elite ruling the proletariat? It only sounded good because systems sucked in Marx's time. It doesn't sound like an improvement for us now, don't you agree? Socialism on the other hand sounds much more attractive. Not as the in between step between current circumstances to a commubist state, but as a stand alone thing, without losing our democratic values of course
     
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    I remember when Rick Santorum said he wanted to eradicate all Muslims. I remember when Trump said he wanted to ban all Muslims.
     
  12. stormountainman

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    True communism does not call for elite to rule over proletariat. It calls for pure equality.
     
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    It calls for both. Wich seems one of its problems.
     
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    What are you talking about here? In the last six years I have brought up Laissez Faire many times. I have always said there has never been pure capitalism on Earth, ever! The context of this discussion was established by 6 Eye in the first mention up above. Consequently, the discussion was limited to communism. We don't have to talk about capitalism here just to provide your royal buttocks with equality. We can start a new discussion if you wish to generate one?
     
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    Frothy...
     
  16. stormountainman

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    I know and agree. There has never been pure capitalism or communism in our world. These academic theories have never been implemented properly. We've had government problems ever since the first cave men walked out of the caves and joined civil society … for safety. There was safety in numbers. After that is was food safety, because agrarian societies had more food readily available. (see Social Contract) In modern times, governments act like they have forgotten their purpose is to serve and protect all the people, not just the rich.
     
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    You shouldn't bite off more than you can chew.
     
  18. soulcompromise

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    Dictionary






    lais·sez-faire
    /ˌlesāˈfer/
    noun
    noun: laissez-faire
    1. a policy or attitude of letting things take their own course, without interfering.
      • Economics
        abstention by governments from interfering in the workings of the free market.
        "laissez-faire capitalism"
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        free enterprise

        private enterprise

        free trade

        individualism

        nonintervention

        free-market capitalism
        private ownership
        market for

    I think it means a "hands off" approach to economy and/or economics.

    What's Wrong With Laissez-Faire Economics?
     
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    Why do you think an academic discussion is dangerous?
     
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    YET !!!
     
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