2020 Election

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  1. For many Democrats, the establishment is simply the enemy. In the end, the oligarchy will have their nominee, but it's going to be impossible to get the Democrats unified. It's all good business for them, whether it's Biden, Harris, or Trump. Anybody but Bernie, their words not mine.
     
  2. new Athenian

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    The key to our conundrum is most Americans have no idea the Establishment is bipartisan in nature. It operates to maintain continuum toward specific goals antithetical to average citizens irregardless who's in office because they own the government !

    Bernie Sanders is committed to overturning the age old status quo and returning the government to the people cutting out the power brokers on Wall Street and K-Street .
     
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    And it won't go quietly! Eliminating oligarchy by 2024 is not a realistic goal. We'd need not just "many Democrats" but lots of non-Democrats as well, and the Establishment will portray the Demos as a bunch of radical Pinko Socialists out to rob Americans of all they hold near and dear. Whoever wins would also need both houses of Congress and the federal courts to accomplish the task, not to mention a few constitutional amendments. How likely is that to happen? The Founding Fathers didn't make it easy. Bernie isn't likely to be around long enough to make much of a dent. Trump has co-opted his protectionist policies, and the younger progressives have done the same to "Medicare for all'. The goal of reversing Citizens United, while commendable, is too complicated for the average voter to relate to. I wish the Democrats would focus on more manageable goals, like just getting rid of Trump. Otherwise, they risk making the perfect the enemy of the better--or rather the friend of the evil.
     
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    If we're surrendering to the least popular president in history before we have a candidate, we don't deserve to win.
     
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  5. I like Frank's take......
     
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    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Money and the guns do all the talking worth listening to, and in order to promote racism its often easier to make it illegal. Corporations are simply not held accountable for their actions, except by slapping fines on them occasionally. Thus, they buy up things like the mass media and encourage the mindless masses to attack each other, in the name of low-low taxes. Like our prison system, its a money maker that spreads the love around to rural populations.

    A similar case in point is the "Screw Nevada" legislation, which congress chose as a site for nuclear waste, because they had the smallest population and couldn't stop the legislation from passing.
     
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    Are you a nobody but Bernie Neon? What about Warren? Policy wise she's in the same lane as Sanders.
     
  8. No, though if Democrats had any sense it would be nobody but Bernie. I won't vote for Biden or Harris, however.
     
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    Strangely, I'm more concerned with Letterman demanding that an audience member wear pants after just complaining about how hot New York was that day.
     
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    nobody but Bernie is what got us into the mess we're in.
     
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  11. I didn't say I wouldn't vote for anyone but Bernie, and the oligarchy created this mess and are continuing to profit off it. You can't really blame anyone for not wanting to vote for an oligarch. If you need someone to blame, look no further than everyone who has voted for the lesser of two evils for the last thirty years. The natural progression of which is to have candidates who less and less often have the people's interests at heart. If things weren't already ludicrous, someone like Trump wouldn't have ever even been a consideration.

    But, by all means, keep putting the establishment in power. The absurd already seems normal.
     
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    TG for president you fucktards
     
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  13. It's the kind of place where you have to wear a shirt.......
     
  14. Trump's standing alongside Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia. Makes sense since the citizens of all these countries are ruled by the same tyrannical oligarchy. As citizens, we're no more respected than the people of Russia, China, or Saudi Arabia. Let that sink in.
     
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    No HRC got us in the mess we're in . It's not nice to rig a Democrat primary then go around claiming you won fair and square .
     
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    Comeon gang, enough fighting about 2016.

    We need to listen to Marianne Williamson, and fight with love power! :tearsofjoy:

     
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    When she basically said empty slogans good, plans bad -

    That was a real debate highlight for me
     
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    Just wait til she sit's down with Kim Jong Un.

    Marianne Williamson: "It's not your Fault"

    Kim Jong Un: "I Know."

    Williamson: "Kim. It's not your fault."

    Kim: "... I Know"

    Williamson: "No, you don't. Listen to me son. It's not your fault."

    Kim: *Tearing up* "Don't fuck with me Marianne. Not you"

    Williamson: Moves closer "It's not your fault."
     
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