218. Chemtrail and covert climate war (4/4/04)

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  1. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    they seeded the clouds at woodstock man
     
  2. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    In the late 1950's, heptachlor was heavily sprayed on millions of acres througout the southeastern US to eradicate fire ants. Although the ants continued to multiply and spread, native wildlife was devastated by the spraying program...the destruction of 95% of the birds...Poisoned birds were seen to be trembling and going into convulsions before dying...before the spraying, the fields were described as full of birds singing, building nests and laying eggs. 41 nests with eggs were counted in one clover field, but within a few days after the pesticide was applied, only three of the nests were still active.
    In other sprayed areas, hawks, wild turkeys, cardinals, woodpeckers, mockingbirds, doves, quail, woodcocks, meadow larks, blackbirds, and others were largely wiped out over wide areas, and mammals and other animals were killed off as well, including foxes, raccons, chipmunks, opossums, armadillos, squirrls, rabbits, snakes, turtles, and massive numbers of fish. (Robert Strother "backfire in the war on insects" readers digest, june, 1959). Livestock and pets were also poisoned, and human residents of the sprayed areas were heavily exposed to heptachlor by direct contact and through food water and dust.

    Despite these events, the chemicals' manufacturer, Velsicol Chem. Corp, realized the potential profitability of chlordane and heptachlor, continued aggressively to market and sell the pesticides. By the early 1970's, they had become 2 of the most widley used pesticides for home and agricultural .

    (When Rachael Carson brought this to light in her expose of the dangers of pesticides in the New Yorker in June 1962, the company sent her this letter, and suggested she was part of the "communist plot to starve americans" in an attempt to halt the publishing of her book "silent spring":
    "Unfortunatley, in addition to the sincere opinions by natural food faddists, Audubon groups and others, members of the chemical industry in this country and western europe must deal with sinister influences, whose attacks on the chemical industry have a dual purpose (1) to create the false impression that all business is grasping and immoral, and (2) to reduce the use of agricultural chemicals in this country and in the countries of western Europe, so that our supply of food will be reduced to east-curtain parity. Many innocent groups are financed and led into attacks on the chem corp by these sinister parties "

    Is it not surpring that many "leaders" in washington are also board members of huge global corporations in the chemical, military, health, and privite banking entities?
     
  3. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    seem's member's of the NWO are immune to the chemical's. spraying at 30.000 ft. isnt going to be very accurate. not even sure if you could guarantee it would hit the ground. ........are these retrofitted plane's or is it something they put in the fuel?
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Figures, you looked at NONE of the evidence provided. You drew a conclusion after reading just two sentences. We are talking about HIGH LEVELS here, not the minute amounts associated with regular air traffic. Again, if you looked at the evidence, you would see this. You didn't.

    And what about the bill introduced by Dennis Kucinich, H.R. 2977, which lists chemtrails as part of an "exotic weapons system" - whatever that means. So you're denying something the government even admits exists?

    But, this doesn't surprise me in the least when it comes to people who think they know everything. They will only listen to what they want to listen to.
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It would appear that it's added to the fuel.
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's funny how some people will pay attention to the evidence they can immediately dispute (rather think they can dispute) while completely ignoring everything else.

    Ellis responded the way I expected he would, which is the way most people do when they don't have the facts. They resort to mockery and ridicule. Nothing of substance or intelligence, of course.

    After all, if chemtrails were real, Mother Jones would likely report on it.

    Ellis, can you explain why jet engines would leave LARGE AMOUNTS of aluminum and barium in the air, simply because they are made out of these materials? Why would there be overtly detectable levels of these materials in the air, simply because the jet engines are constructed out of these materials. You need to better explain yourself.

    Also, I know that jet engines are constructed with aluminum, but can you direct me to where it indicates that jet engines contain barium as well - let alone amounts that would be detectable in the engine's exhaust?
     
  7. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    Chemtrails are immediately recognizable to anyone who knows what they are.

    And according to my research, chemtrails are sprayed not by passenger jets but by planes that no one claims flying at very high altitudes. One thing I have to support that comes from my own experience.

    I live on Prince Edward Island in Canada. I live at the eastern end, near the Atlantic ocean. The airport on PEI does not do trans-atlantic trips. You'd have to go to Halifax for that. It therefore perplexes me why any passenger planes would be flying over me area. I somehow doubt planes going across the ocean from Halifax would fly over this area.

    This leads me to believe that they're unmarked, unclaimed planes, as I have read elsewhere. These planes likely fly over very large areas spraying these toxins.

    But then again, maybe not. It could be passenger jets. I don't know, and it's not really the issue anyway.
     
  8. kathaksung

    kathaksung Banned

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    What chemical? I think it is a kind of refrigerant to produce a hurricane.

    354. Another air crash to cover up (11/2/05)

    On 10/22, a Nigerian jet carried 117 passengers crashed shortly after takeoff. I believe it was another swift reaction to my accusation of the four recent air plane accidents.(see #352) But how could they response so quickly on same day? Because to prepare the article of 10/22, I did a google search about "plane crash" on 10/21 to collect information. The surveillance team expected I would write about their crime. To make the air crash a common events, they created another one. Nigeria is picked up as a sacrifice because it's a weak country.

    In 21 days from 8/14 to 9/5, there were four big plane crashes. It was a cover up operation to justify a coming air accident planned between 9/10 to 9/17. (my relatives travel date)

    The next fatal air accident in the world took place 47 days later. (9/5 to 10/22) It was a swift reaction to my accusation that the four air accidents were intelligence operation.

    355. Hurricane (4): Chemical and climate war(11/2/05)

    The chemical used to create a hurricane is possibly a kind of refrigerant. When the compressed refrigerant is released in air, it gasifies quickly and sucks a lot of heat. That's how a refrigerant works. When it is used in a closed cabinet, that plane becomes a cooler of the refrigerator. This was what happened in Greece air plane.

    Freon was a popular refrigerant. Several years ago, scientists said it destroyed the ozonosphere and banned it. It means Freon reacts with part element of air.

    To destroy the ozonosphere takes a large quantity of Freon. I think it was the result when it was used in experiment of a covert climate war. I also believe this is why Bush rejected the Tokyo treaty. The government knew they are altering the weather deliberately.

    Since climate war depends on chemical spreading, how can Feds apply it on other countries? Read the news here.

    Quote, "Treat of shoulder fired missiles prompts action

    By steve Johnson

    Mercury News, 4/8/2004

    Some federal officials hope to modify US commercial planes to fire lasers, launch flares ...... fly at night with lights dimmed to foil terrorists armed with portable missiles.

    While no planes in this country have come under missile attack so far, the government wants to be prepared."

    A device which launches flares also can spread chemical. And how can it avoid being spotted with a chemtrail? Fly at night. All this was in the name of anti-terrorist.

    Anyhow, the proposal was denied by the House due to the high cost. Then I have heard two news.

    One was in newspaper. (I didn't keep that newspaper because at first I didn't realize the real meaning behind it) It said because the fuel cost was too high, commercial airline decided to reduce the flight weight. One way was to reduce the water reserve which used to flush the toilet by half.

    The other one was from a TV news. It said a family was stunned when their roof of the house was broken through by a chunk of ice. Later it was proved the ice was the toilet water of a commercial plane. It said the toilet water released by air plane encountered with a cool air and froze to an ice.

    My allegation is this was an experiment when a commercial plane was reformed to spread chemical. It may also prove my allegation that the chemical was a kind of refrigerant which can freeze certain amount of water instantly.

     
  9. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    woah thats some serious shit
     
  10. Spiritforces

    Spiritforces Member

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    Scary shit
    Thank you for posting kathasung
    I hope all this is not true...
     
  11. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    i can assure you it is. scary shit.
    it's really quite fortunate due to budget cuts planes are going to start carrying half the amount of water than currently, thus cutting the frozen shit boulder size in half! still deadly, yes, but half less likley to come into contact with you so thats reassuring. :)
     
  12. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i would be the last to dispute that there is wierd shit going on. or that so called conservative politicians are behind even wierder shit then liberal ones. or that it isn't even just the politicians who are pulling the shit. or that even maybe the people who put politicians in power are pulling shit in more ways then just working through them, which now a days they can get away with almost anything by doing anyway, or so it seems.

    but i also think, when it comes to the details, that speculation is still speculation, even my own.

    there is so much that we don't know
    at least i know that i don't know it

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  13. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    excellent ah hahah me too
     
  14. kathaksung

    kathaksung Banned

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    356. Tsunami, flooding and meteorite (11/7/05)

    Now let's go back to Anthony Carr's prophecy again.The two paragraph without picture. (see #324)

    1. Meteorite hits US. A super size meteorite will hit a desert city of America.

    2. Big lake area will become a water country. Storm will sweep over the boundary of US and Canada. There will be a great flooding in Big Lake area. Few boat will survive it as Noah's Ark. Besides, nuclear explosion will cause tsunami in Cuba. Half of Cuba will be drowned.

    Since I think Anthony Carr's words were no more than Inside group's project covered up by the name of "prophecy", I kept an eye on "tsunami, flooding and meteorite."

    In December 2004, there came the Big tsunami. In August 2005, there came the big flooding in New Orleans. Then what about meteorite? It came in December 2004 though didn't draw much attention. Here are news about it.

    Quote, "Meteor Explodes Over Jakarta

    Josh Pringle

    Sunday, December 19, 2004

    Astronomers say a meteor likely exploded over the Indonesian capital of Jakarta Sunday morning.

    Witnesses say there was a bright object with a tail of fire streaked across the sky, and then there was a loud explosion.

    http://www.cfra.com/headlines/index.asp?cat=2&nid=22930"

    Quote, "Unknown object falls on Indonesia

    Meteor or bomb? Officials not sure, no injuries known

    Jakarta, Indonesia (AP)

    Indonesia air force radar detected an unidentified object falling toward the Earth at a great speed before disappearing at around the same time as the noise was heard.

    Police have been on high alert in Indonesia in recent days after several Western governments reported that Islamist militants, blamed for a series of attacks in recent years, were planning more bombings."

    (Mercury News, 12/19/04)

    I believe it was an experiment of space weapon. A practice of a missile cruised in space to hit the target on earth. But a missile is not a meteor. Everything would be clear if there was an investigation. That's why the news drew a tail, to hint it might be a terrorist bombing. But they could make people believe that without any practical exercises, (hundreds of hours at least, I suppose) the students of flight school could actually drive a modern plane to hit any target they wanted. It's still hard to ensure people that Bin Laden also has a space weapon. So we never hear anything further about that meteor.

    It's not a coincidence that both events which Anthony Carr prophecied (tsunami and meteor) took place in Indonesia, almost at same time. (12/19/04 for meteor, one week later, on 12/26, for tsunami)

    Because two months ago, in October that year,
    Yudhoyono became the President of Indonesia. Inside group then had a safe place to carry out their experiment for new technology under the protection of a puppet dictator.

    What about the flooding? Eight months later, we saw Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.

     
  15. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    um it said he predicted meteor hitting us, not jakatra or indonesia so that was a bit out of left field with all that.
    it said the storm was gonna be in the big (great) lakes region of us and would be round the border of us/canada, NOT louisiana
    it said thhe tsunama was in cuba, not in indonesia
    strike three
    so i mean really, basically the only point is yer in the right forum. but yes the inside are clever (at least think theyare) of course they instill false prophets in their doctrine ;)
     
  16. kathaksung

    kathaksung Banned

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    If Carr made it that accurate, then it was not a prophecy, it became evident intelligence project. Even a project couldn't be that accurate.

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    361. Storm is now a killing tool of Feds (11/27/05)

    Back to 9/24 framed case. In "#342. Homeowner Association again (9/12/05)" I talked about How Feds arranged a trip for my wife between 9/22 to 9/29 so they could frame me in a special "9/24 Neighborhood Cleanup day". Then what would happen to my wife while she was in South east Asia?

    They prepared a trip accident.

    My wife told me a lucky story when she returned. The travel group would tour Haloon Bay in Vietnam on 9/27. Some big boss in the group gave up the tour with the excuse they must attend a meeting or just plainly said they were afraid of the typhoon. Only a few tourists went with my wife. But the typhoon miraculously left the Haloon Bay a day before so they had a nice boat tour.

    On 9/30/05, there was a picture in Mercury News which shows a woman walking through rubble caused by Typhoon Damrey. "The worst storm to hit Vietnam in a decade. Officials said Thursday they had recovered 38 bodies so far."

    I think there would be a "boat accident caused by typhoon" on 9/27 if the 9/24 framed case went on successfully. The good luck for my wife was not a nice trip but a safe one.

     
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    364. Cover up tactic (12/12/05)

    When Feds carries out a plot, they used to perform some similar incident to cover up the main one to blind people. That's why when I saw four big air crashes took place from 8/14 to 9/5, I thought they would have a major one targeting at my relatives on their 9/10 trip.
    The other reason support my allegation are motives and suitable conditions.
    1. The Greece air crash. The plane took off from Cyprus, a divided island occupied by Greece and Turkey. If it was proved a perpetration, Turkey would be the suspect. And as I alleged, it also was a test of new killing weapon.

    2. The Columbia plane crashed in Venuzuela. The passengers were mostly French. Since the invasion of Iraq, France is the most hated country of Inside group. Feds even planed to crash Eiffel Tower with plane. (see Anthony Carr's prophecy)

    4. Indonesia's air crash. That's the most evident one. The president there was a puppet agent. He might be benefit politically from the crash too, like what happened in tsunami. The governor of Sumatra was on board the crashed plane.

    3. I couldn't find any reason for the crash of the Peru plane. On 10/22 in "352. Pre-psychological propaganda" I illustrated four accidents as the work of Feds. 12 days later, Alberto Fujimori, the former president of Peru, was arrested in Chile. No one has a clear idea why he jumped on a private jet on Friday, Nov 4, and zoomed off toward Santiago from Japan. I think he was set up in a trap. He became a compensation to Peru from Feds after I have revealed the truth. Fujimori was a most wanted by Peru government.

    Similar secret deal were seen between China and US. Peng Ming was arrested in Burma in May 2004. Wang Bing Zhang was kidnapped in June 2002 in Vietnam. Both are famous dissenters of China. Both had their base in US. And both were delivered to Chinese government in a third country where they thought they were safe.

    In late November, media had a report that Singapore would execute an Australia whom was found carrying heroin. I didn't take much notice at it at first. But when I saw another topic "UK, US nationals arrested in Singapore" (for drugs) 2 days ago, I remembered Dr. Wang. His wife has relatives in Singapore and they often go to Singapore. He was a target of Feds too. (see "242. Dr. Wang is a target ")

    The sudden rising topic coincides with the aggressive persecution of Feds these days. I worry it may be another plot by using a real case to cover up a framed case. The secret police of Singapore had a tight relationship with US'.
     
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    365. Low interest rate and the role of Japan (12/17/05)

    Federal Reserve raised the bench mark rate to 4.25% at the purpose to poke off the bubble of housing market. The later the bubble breaking off, the severe the economy will be hurt. But what troubles Greespan is his operation doesn't work. The 30 years mortgage rate stand firmly at around 6.3%. Because main factor which influence the 30 years fixed mortgage rate, the long term bond rate keeps in low. The 10 years US treasury note is around 4.5%. The latest rate on 12/16 is 4.44%. It's only a 0.19% difference between the interest rate of 10 years bond and Federal overnight rate. If the ten years treasury note stays at that level, then when Federal Reserve changes the overnight rate to 4.5% next month, the short term interest rate will equal or pass over the 10 years long term rate. Is it absurd?

    This phenomenon is created by Feds. (D.O.J.) They drove two big buyers to invest on US treasury note in large scale. Thus to keep the long term bond rate low which eventually leads to a low mortgage rate. Because Feds (FBI and DEA) hold a lot of real estate property. Why they don't retreat from this market? Because my case haven't finished. It's also why there is an intensify day to day persecution on me these days. The economy situation is worse and worse for them.

    Who are the two big buyers? China and Japan. Since there is a historical deficit in US current account, dollar faces a devaluation. It's very unwise to invest on US treasury note at this time. Then what makes China and Japan to do so?

    There is no free lunch in the world. D.O.J. bribed the two countries to do so. The payment to Japan is its sovereignty.

    Japan was a defeated country in Second World War. It is still under occupation of US army. Though Japan is an economy power, it is a political pygmy. Especially in military. Probably it was the only one suffered from atomic bomb. Its military re-build is tightly controlled by US. Now the restriction on Japan are released gradually.

    1. On 9/10/2004, Japan officially declared its Navy found a nuclear submarine invaded its territorial waters. On 9/12, Japanese government confirmed it was a Chinese nuclear submarine. Koizumi's government lodged a diplomatic protest and demanded an official apology. It was contrary to the restraint attitude Japanese used to have. Media said the same water had been intruded before by Chinese submarines. Japan never complained. From military point, army used to keep silence at such events to avoid exposing its anti-sub ability. Then what made Japan start a high profile conflict with China? D.O.J. was behind it.

    I alleged so because on 9/9/2004, a young anti-Japan writer was found dead in her car. Iris Chang, famous for her book "The rape of Nanking", was said "suicided" by a gun shot. Despite female rarely suicided with gun, there was no motive for Iris Chang to finish her life at 36. She was a "woman in supreme control of her successful, hectic, perfect life: bestselling author, wife of an engineer husband, mother of a young son, and spokeswoman for a growing movement to seek reparations from Japan for World War 2 atrocities." (Mercury News, 11/11/04) She was writing another book about the Japanese in Philippine in World War 2 when she died.

    Of course, if it was done by Feds, they prepared an explanation. Media started a wave of reporting that she had depression which "few had known". Maybe when there was no available motive, "mental illness" is the best outlet. She was said left a "will" for her husband before her death. The note was computer printed.

    Media also reported many people didn't believe the "suicide". If successful people such like Fiorina was just selected to be HP's CEO, or Arnold Schwarzinneger was just "elected" Governor of California, Or George Bush in May 2003 when he said "mission accomplished" in a carrier, would they suffer a "depression"? Some people suspected it was done by Japanese rightist. They were wrong. They don't know the principle of game. It must have been done by its own intelligence. Iris Chang, died as part of a payment to encourage Japan to stand up against China. Next day after Chang's death, Japan started a diplomat conflict with China. (to be continued)
     
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    366. Low interest rate and the role of Japan (2) (12/22/2005)

    Since both directors of FBI and DEA stepped down from their posts in June 2001 because they authorized to sign a secret deal with China, D.O.J. changed its way of making secret deal. They let celebrities to promise a deal without a signature. Such like Ashcoroft in Moscow, Rice in Moscow and Beijing, Mueller in Bejing, and Bush with Chinese Presidents in international meeting. Same thing took place in Japan in 2004.

    On 9/9/04, a popular anti-Japanese writer Iris Chang died of a gun shot.
    Next day on 9/10, Arnold Schwarzenneger had a visit to Japan. On same day Japanese government declared its territorial water was intruded.
    On 9/12, Japan demanded an apology from China.

    It was an evident deal. So far as I know, Arnold had made three open visit abroad after he became the Governor of California.

    1) On 5/1/04, he visited Israel and Austria.
    2) On 9/10/04, he visited Japan.
    3) On 11/14, he visited China. see "358. New secret deal (11/17/05)'

    The first one was a "thank you" visit for let him to be the Governor of California. The later two were to be representative of D.O.J. to promise secret deals. Although all these visits were in the name of "promoting trade".

    2. US supports Japan to be a permanent member in Security Council of United Nations. This will largely promote the diplomatic and political position of Japan in the world. Japan starts to work actively this year on this issue.

    3. Re-build Japanese military.
    In later October this year, the Japanese ruling party passed a resolution to change the Constitution. The present Japanese constitution is known as a Pacific Constitution which was done under the direction of US occupation troops. It abandons the military method to resolve international dispute. Now Japanese wants one of their own.

    The Asian countries are alarmed by Japanese movement. They think this is the first step Japan to re-build its military. People rarely know this is the result of a secret deal. US media almost censored such kind of news. Have you ever noticed that two weeks ago was the anniversary of Pearl Harbor event? It passed quietly like it has been forgotten.

    Japan, with its money, in a rare chance, starts to buy back its military and political power from the Inside group of US.
     
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    kathaksung Banned

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    367. China's role and the payment to it (12/27/05)

    China not only invested its surplus dollars in US financial market, it is also a major partner with D.O.J. in the plot of framing a big drug case. The payment paid to China is huge.

    The first big one was the membership of WTO in 2001. Chinese economy since grew so rapidly that it is now the sixth economic power in the world. Then when D.O.J. exhausted its resource such like sacrifice the dissidents, it sold Taiwan's independence.

    There are two big parties in Taiwan. One is the Nationalist Party which insists "one China" policy. The other one is the Democratic Progress Party which wants independence. Of course, an independent Taiwan is for US' interest. So we saw in last decade, the former ruling party the N.P. was torn apart and at last lost its regime. The D.P.P. took over the reign power of Taiwan on 2000.

    But that trend changed in late 2003 when Taiwan became a chip in secret deal between US and China. (see #206, 254, 255, 293, 296)

    In April and May, twice Arnold Schwarzenegger had planned to visit China. I warned in advance that he was for a secret deal with a bribe of 25 billions of pension fund investment. (see "303. April plot and secret deal (4/12/05)") He thus postponed his visit and that investment plan has never heard of since then.

    It was replaced by another deal. It was Taiwan. In late April and early May, two major opposition leaders, Lien Chan and James Soong, visited mainland China. It was a big step forward for the unification and put the pro-independence President Chen Shui-bian on the defensive.

    Furthermore, Chen Shui-bian's life became a chip too. While James Soong was in China, the Taiwan's President was invited to a small island country in Pacific Ocean. The country was so backward that there was no airport big enough for the landing of a Boeing. Chen Shui-bian had to take an old hydroplane in a neighbor big island. I also was impressed by the report that he was entertained by a personal sail with the Island President. There was wind. The sea was rough. The wave was big. President was wetted. He compared the rough sea with his Political life. He didn't know the rough sea could become a dead sea for him if a framed case went on successfully in US.

    I didn't keep the newspaper (Part information was from TV) because at that time I thought the unification visit of Taiwan's opposition party was the only payment. I didn't expect the Inside group would sacrifice a President's life whom work for it. I only realized it when the similar case repeated later.
     

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