24 People Shot in Chicago in Two Days

I get the impression that the people/gangs doing this are known by the police. Makes me wish the mayor of Chicago would just go on TV one day and say "No cameras on the south side for 24 hours", then just send in the police to clean fucking house.

 

I'll share my thoughts. Chicago has some of the toughest, most strict gun laws in the country.

Those people are thugs with illegal guns that know nobody in that city can legally pull out a gun to defend themselves, and shoot back. So they are shooting innocents like it's some kind of game.

Now that Illinois just recently passed a concealed carry law that Chicago has to be abide by, you are going to start (over time) seeing more bad people getting shot and killed while carrying out this kind of crap, and you are going to see a drop in forcible/violent crime.

 

...it's always the black neighborhoods...

 

http://m.dailyillini.com/news/campu...b60-0a06-11e3-8d1e-0019bb30f31a.html?mode=jqm

http://www.sj-r.com/thedome/x1837088961/Local-law-enforcement-Hold-off-on-carrying-concealed-guns

 

the majority of people are doing ok 10000000000 but the 1000000 really don't affect us much sooooo i say bring out the nukes for syria.

 

That's a pretty good analysis of (the gun control--- or lack of gun control--side) of what's going on in Chicago. :2thumbsup:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTdNm9WgEQ"]Illinois State Rep Calls for Military Occupation of Chicago #N3 - YouTube

 

Gubment come save us!!!!!!

Fucking scary shit Deviate.

 

How can you know that stricter gun laws would have made a difference? They certainly haven't in the past. What I am saying is that even with the strict gun laws of Chicago on the books already criminals still get their hands on them and shootings like this still take place. Gun laws can't get much more strict than they already are in Chicago and Cook County. Chicago banned handguns outright and the south side was still a fucking war zone. Until that ban was overturned by the Supreme Court in 2010 anyway. Even then, Cook county and Chicago still both ban "assault weapons".

No, I do not accept that they are interwoven into American culture and society. They are present, certainly, but it is entirely possible to go one's entire life in this country and not see a firearm anywhere except for on a TV or movie screen.

 

But I can. We've had stricter gun laws on the books and they didn't help; shit like this still happened. Chicago has stricter gun laws when compared to many other parts of the country, and still we have shit like this going down.

There is also that pesky thing called the 2nd Amendment. What you advocate is infringing on the rights of all because, hey, we might as well try regardless of whether there is any data backing up the idea that it might work.

 

Amendments can be changed, hence the term amendments. What he is advocating infringes on what you consider to be the rights of all, but people tend to have different opinions about what constitutes a human right.

 

Not arguing that. Still, do you honestly think this country is going to undergo a constitutional rewrite over this? Do you think it should?

For the record, I don't think that is what Willy is advocating. I think he is advocating the return of things like a federal assault weapons ban, regardless of whether the previous ban had any effect on gun crime in this country. If I am wrong and he is, in fact, advocating more than that then, well, what he is advocating would only cause more bloodshed in this country.

 

I've never lived there, so I have no idea. From the outside looking in, though, it seems like it should at least be seriously considered. Unfortunately, I don't think your government is functioning well enough at the moment to have a serious debate about anything. Ideally they would all sit down, look at the evidence for and against, look at case studies of other countries, and have an intelligent and informed debate about what is best for the country as a whole. Instead it seems they spend their time yelling at each other and fundraising.

 

Certainly not gonna argue that point.

Still, as an American, I don't think it should be considered. The problem, IMO, isn't the 2nd Amendment and it isn't guns.

 

Your opinion is fact. People are killing eachother over territory, business, and ego, not the fact that they have guns. If guns were magically blinked out of existence, they'd be killing eachother with explosives, blades, and blunt force.

 

I hear that it looks like they are moving the National Guard in there...is anybody from there? Seen a lot o green vehicles last couple of days?

 

Transferring weapons across state lines for sale like that is already illegal. That's why any weapon recovered from this kind of street crime has the serial filed off. So it's not traceable.

Is this enough reason to restrict legal purchases of weapons from people with a sense of right and wrong? As per for your overall posts you are speculating and critiquing matters that for all intents and purposes, someone so culturally removed, might as well be speculating on any fictional matter.

 

But the funny thing about this right is the only way it will be stripped from me is if I'm dead or incapacitated. And I speak for millions of Americans saying that. It's a non point without the end of our society as we know it.

The only way that would possibly happen is by militarized occupation of all of our cities, towns, communities. And from there we have lost any shred of control over preserving our values for better or worse. I personally am not opposed to progression by any means, but not in the manner of forced repression masqueraded as progression.

Why can't you idealists realize you have good hearts and intentions but are grossly misdirected at the moment.

 

If the pro-obama politician there needs some bodies to justify disarming Americans she's happy to provide 'em and "plea" for martial law - you'd think that would be obvious to anyone. The only people out of control with guns are u-no-who and some misguided kids in dumb gangs......so like every thing else here, "a really big shew"

 

Is gun control the answer? I dunno, how many of the guns used were purchased legally, no matter where they were purchased?

What race are the people committing the gun crimes? Look at the predominant race and start breaking it down from there- economics, social, etc.

I think it has a lot to do with gun control. Look at every city that has strict gun control. Every one of them has a high crime rate. They blame the lawful gun owners, claiming it's because guns can be bought elsewhere. Well as I asked, how many of those guns were purchased legally? I betcha not a one was. Criminals are not known for acquiring weapons legally. They steal them or get them off the black market.