25I-NBOMe

25I is not hard to find at all, it's not banned in Canada (from what I am aware of).

I got edited by a mod for mentioning "Canada" in my lsd thread.

 

I know from experience (several with both) that acid and 25i are about as similar as dpt and 2c-e. Having also tried 25c I rather enjoyed it, but further experimenting is in order beforehand drawing any further conclusion than that if you knew how many zillions of variations there are, you'd know that's all subjective and specious to claim that 25i rules all.

When you say "25i" do you mean nb34md, mbcn, n,nap, nbome, nmethiop, n2nap3oh, or what?

 

I mean nbome. Bascially i am talking out of my ass, I never tried it (or acid) but my eyes sure light up when someone says it is comparable to acid.

 

I am going to pick up my order of 25i in about an hr. This may have been covered and if it has im sorry.. But if i plan on snorting it i dont need to complex it w/ HPCBD ? I was under the impression it had to be no matter what? Or is it only when sublingual? If anyone could help clear this up for me id appreciate it...i believe i am getting the freebase version.
Also.. Can anyone point me to a good source for Affordable blotter art? (or cheap HPBCD?)

 

like cosmo allured to...it seems to have a longer "half-life"

why do you like 25c better?

 

he means nbome obviously as that's the only series that is being commercially produced, at least to my knowledge right now. Also, there are a ton of differences between dpt and 2ce in almost all ways, visuals, length of trip, body high, mind state, pretty much everything.

25I and acid however, are actually pretty similar in a lot of ways. First of all, they both hit the exact same receptor sites, and while 25I only targets the 5HTv(2A) and LSD hits some others, that site is the one responsible for LSD's psychoactive properties. So the effects of both are due to the same receptor site, one difference being that LSD is a partial antagonist while 25I is a full antagonist, kind of like the difference between JWH-018 and THC. It therefore makes sense that the effects due to 25I are stronger than that of LSD dose for dose.

In my opinion, 25I and LSD are very similar, even though they definitely do have distinct differences, mainly 25I is a lot more visual being more colorful, producing stronger trails, and stronger afterimages. It also increases your mood more than LSD, more so than any other hallucinogen I've done actually. So much so that when I took it an hour before when I should have come down off a M1 & MDMA combo, I didn't feel a comedown at all until the 25I wore off, at which point I crashed decently hard. I'd say 25I is closer to LSD in effect than any other hallucinogen I have done. Rebuttal to cosmoknots completely nonsensical posting completed. Thank you.

 

Does it hurt to snort 1-3 mgs? I read the one about the lemon juice prep and I won't be going there. I have heard rough things about snorting phens (e.g. "Raped in the eyeball") and I have some damage that you can think of as a hole in my sinuses. Snorting even low-dose clean K or MXE causes shooting, hot knife-like pains up from my mouth, through my nose, across the side of my head and right to my temple. Yuck, especially when tripping or anticipating a trip. Comments?

 

Snorting 25I-NBOMe does not hurt at all, in fact, you can't even feel that you've snorted anything.

On another side note, I like 25I better than 25C because it lasts longer and has more colorful visuals, though they aren't as strong and have less of the bendy morphy type things goin on. They're both cool, i've experimented with 25c less.

 

For those wondering, 25I is very much like LSD in some very basic ways, but differs on some key points, at least for me.

-Less pushy. You can dictate the terms of the trip. I only got into the mood of the trip when I let myself.

-More playful. This doesn't have as strong a euphoria as some other things (800ug of 25I is probably on par with 40mg 2c-c in terms of euphoria), but it's there enough to lighten things up. Your mind can go to the same places it does on LSD, but there's a brighter side to all of it.

-Less fried afterwards. Usually I take LSD in the afternoon and wake up the next morning feeling fried. No such issue with 25I, almost felt like the calm and serene feeling after waking up having gotten baked the previous evening.

Honestly, I prefer 25I to LSD. I'd never have thought I'd say something like this, but considering it's availability and it's price, I prefer it.

ALSO, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THOSE TAKING IT ON BLOTTER: If you do what you do with LSD tabs, it will not work. You can't just tongue it for 20 minutes and swallow it. You need to keep it in your mouth for 30-45 minutes, and most importantly, do not swallow or spit any of your saliva. It is completely orally inactive, so to get the full effect, you need to keep everything contained for 30-45 minutes so it can be fully absorbed.

 

Nah do it the easy way with the tabs and stick it in your nostril, its far more practical than keeping a tab in your mouth for 45 minutes.

 

How does this work?

1. How long should I keep it in for?
2. Is dosage different?
3. Is the trip changed? (Comeup, intensity, comedown, etc)
4. Does it hurt or smell? Any sensations?

Also, just took some of the 25C. It was 3 days after the 25I, so I don't doubt there was some tolerance, but I still had a very strong trip. I took about 650ug of it, and my basic description is that it was the more social version of LSD. Emphasis on the visuals, the headspace is less introverted and thoughtful and more playful and kicked back, there is a very tiny touch of euphoria, and it lasts about half as long from beginning to end.

and when I say emphasis on the visuals, I mean it is an extremely visual psychadelic. Whereas 25I was lackluster in terms of the visuals and focused more on the headspace and the euphoria, this is kind of the opposite. The headspace of 25C is more lucid and hollow, hence you're able to have fun and kick back instead of getting trapped in thought trains, but the visuals are very intense.

and most interestingly, even when I took it buccaly, it kicked in EXTREMELY fast. 15 minutes and I was already seeing very strong visuals. 30 minutes in and the trip was already in full swing.

This, above anything else I think, is the perfect Friday Night Get Together psychedelic, if you had to pick one. At least, in my opinion.

Curious to try both of these in the nose now, though.

 

I disagree about the euphoria. It is more euphoric than any other hallucinogen I've done by far including 100 mg 2cc. Also, if you take a higher dosage, its very visual, though I still agree 25c is more so, just different more bendy morphy stuff with stronger trails ect.

 

Really? Stronger than 100mg 2c-c? Wow, the most I've taken is 90mg 2c-c and the euphoria was so strong it was overwhelming, as strong or stronger than MDMA. How much 25I did you take, and by what ROA? The 800ug I took was very euphoric, but not 100mg-of-2cc euphoric.

 

Does this Chem have recreational potential for a concert or something? I would assume so based on the remarks about it being euphoric and clear headed, haven't read much about how it goes with music tho and one person here mentioned tending towards a bad trip, so interested in how this Chem may be in a public setting?

 

You get highly emotional and moody on it so silence works one second, frenetic beats the next, but it's controllable... lots like 2ce only stronger and longer lasting with no ill effects.

25c is more euphoric, hallucinogenic, and enhances music better.

 

I was wondering the same thing as GB. I tried 2C-E at a concert once and that was just terrible. The whole 'over analyzing' aspect (for me anyway) of 2C-E just KILLED. I felt as if the band were playing their songs in a mocking type of manner. Idk, It's really hard to explain. It just really sucked especially when we got lost on the way back to the hotel lol.

Is this stuff still insanely expensive? I don't even know of a vendor anymore for any of the nbome's

 

I think you are just an unstable person to begin with; I don't get emotional or moody on it it just puts me in a very happy mood with gentle visuals the whole time (though they can be very strong at higher doses). Also, 2ce lasts longer than 25i and is more intense, with stronger visuals at higher doses, though they could be comparable as far as visual strength when you take 25I higher. 25C does not provide as much of a mood elevation, though it does have stronger visuals; it has more of the bendy morphy visuals than 25I does, but it also doesn't last as long and the peak is very very short, peaking very quickly and tapering off in an exponential decay. 25I has a long peak.

I've taken 3-4 mg without much of a tolerance and 9 mg in the evening (both insufflated) after eating a 20 strip of acid. The 3-4 mg was stronger because the substance is very sensitive to tolerance, especially from acid since they hit the same receptor sites. Also, I have never noticed a significant mood elevation from any of the 2c-x's, except 2ct7 and slightly 2ce, though I haven't experimented with them a ton yet. Mescaline also provides a pleasant mind state, but for me nothing is as significant as 25I.

 

That seems really weird to me. No hallucinogen I have ever taken has even come close to being as euphoric as MDMA, in fact I wouldn't even call it euphoria so much as mood elevation.

 

Me unstable?! No, it cannot be!!! And nonsensical mumbo jumbo, lordy be! I s'pose I best check myself before I wreck myself
Haha, you're one to talk about instability lulz, but in relative terms you may have a point. But aren't we all a little nutty, porkstock excluded?

Anyway take a few things in mind... I have a strong affinity for chlorinated phens moreso than iodized ones. I do see countless comparisons to 2ce & 25i, 2ce hits me more similarly than does lsd up against 25i. I realize 25c is shorter in duration, but all the same still feel it's more hallucinogenic, less introverted, more music/activity enhancing, euphoric, sociable (even though 25i is both too)--& ppl have disputed for æons about 2ce being the most euphoric vs. 2cc vs. 2ct7, etc. Another thing to consider, well a few, my ROAs are rarely oral or sublingual and that aside, I like you metabolize drugs slightly differently than most. Also others have both posted re: the introverted & moody elements of 25i, so I don't stand alone there. But as for how psychedelic drugs hit, you ought to consider that to my knowledge you've only ever had one discomforting or introspective trip on anything! That's highly unusual, and using dpt vs. 2ce/25i vs. lsd is a fairly apt comparison imo/ime: indoles vs. phenethylamine and derived substances have distinctly different signatures, the comparisons don't stop there though as I still notice 2ci like effects sans the headaches and cramps of 2ci, lsd just ain't a lick the stuff imo regardless of being fully antagonistic on the same receptor site. Ultimately though, in spite of our polar opposite reactions to these things, there appears to be a collective notion of how 25i will hit anyone even with our myriad different responses. My experiences with this compound are as valid as the next (don't exclude hall's descriptions though). Oh yeah, I happen to find 2cc far more visual and euphoric than 2ce where hall is the other way around. I've dosed high on 25i too, not like him, but acid or shrooms or 2cc, 2cb, and 2ct7 are all far more visual for me regardless of how high the dose, I like 25c more due to it's amiable, sociable nature and shorter duration.

"Love yourself a little more each moment you're alive"

 

You stuffed full of shit so much that you're about to burst at the seams. You've told me before that 2cc doesn't do shit for you at all, even at 100 mg. I'm guessing the reason you are saying it is so visual is because you fucking IMed 2cc with 2cb and it was really visual, and you've done that with 2ce but fuck that, there isn't any question that 2ce is more visual than 2cc. Not a question. No dispute to be had. If your brain produces more visuals from 2cc than 2ce then your brain is wrong. It needs corrections.

On an unrelated side note, I did over a gram of methylone in the morning today and then in the evening I did my first ever IV, and IVed 30 mg morphine (which had a minor relaxing type effect), and had 4.5 beers during that time frame, then put out a line of ketamine and snorted it. I then got pretty high and a little light headed but felt pretty good, then I got more light headed and laid down. Then I started feeling nauseous and eventually vomited in the toilet and then my stomach cramped up and hurt which I don't remember ever happening before when I've vomited in the past. I also go some visuals but they were acid like and I think that's from doin so much acid and 25I about a week ago. I ate a 20 strip in the morning and then insufflated 9 mg 25I later in the evening, and then the next night someone gave me a drop of 190 mic acid which was cool and really clean but my tolerance too high to trip hard on it though did get some visuals. Anyway I'm having trouble keeping my vision producing one image instead of two slightly rotated images that dont line up so I think ima go to sleep. I also am having trouble from not passing out. Oh yeah and after I vomited and my stomach was hurting I drove home and had to go through a DUI checkpoint. That sucked cop was like you have alcohol in your system go straight home. Thank him for not bein a pally wacker. Anyway thanks for listening!