2C-E: 75 mg

I am hesitant to post a report. I typed it up. I didn't realize how insanely deep an profound 2C-E would be, even at a high dose.


I think the neurological orgasm that results from 2C-E and music can blanket some the absolute mindfuck that it can supply.

 

don't be hesitant, man. we are all on the edge of our seats!

 

Guys, guys, guys... WOW

At high doses, 2C-E, I did not know, is just as legitimate of an existential mindfuck as anything there is. Holy, holy, holy, holy SHIT!


Why did I not have this impression of this drug?


I urge any of you who are considering a 60 mg + dose, be alone, comfortable and in a dark room. Music is AWESOME! BUT, try to go a trip without music. It is a fucking MINDFUCK. It brought me to a similar place that a very high dose of mushrooms brought me to. The difference was I was more coherent and it was even more apparent.


Alan Watts wrote something similar to "We (I took this as existing beings) are god playing hide and seek from its self." THis never made sense to me until last night. I could not comprehend things, but I saw them and were aware of them. I felt as if I were in the presence of another intelligence and I believe this intelligence was not a higher being, but it was an intelligence that was the fabric of existence (this reminded me of how some have described being in the presence of beings on mescaline, high doses of mushrooms and DMT).


Everything seemed infinite. I could see the infinite-ness of things and saw (didn't have, but saw..if that makes sense) an understanding of the make up of things. When the trip first started to kick in. I said, very naturally, "everything is always happening an infinite amount of times." This made perfect sense to me at the time.




The strange part is, my brother dosed 50+ mg a few weeks back and reluctantly and embarrassingly started to say some similar things. When I approached him during our trip this time and explained what I was experiencing, he said this is what he experienced on 50+ and he is experiencing some of the same things now.


As I was in bed, my hands would do involuntary, sign-language like movements at times. I totally forgot about of that until mid-day today. As I was there in the dark silence, I also started to feel a sensation of physical death in different ways.. almost like I was having vague flashbacks of dying.


If you have the time and space, dose high and try to go in comfortable, dark silence. This was unexpected. My brain is exhausted and I have a cloudiness/borderline depression/dissociation. I am considering trying my MXE to calm down/invite happier thoughts. I am not having dark thooughts, I am just experiencing a slight void in emotion. I am not feeling comfortable being alone. I feel the need to connect. My friend I got a drink with is now out of town for a week.



previously typed up

 

This sounds really cool, I wish I could experience this phenomena... I think I experienced something vaguely similar on my 2nd LSD trip but Salvia pretty much fucking shit all over the idea of infinite for me shortly after, at least any sort of infinite I would want to be apart of.

 

"its been about minutes"

lol durgz

 

Sounds like an awesome trip I think everyone on the planet should try a high-dose of 2ce while lying in bed in total darkness. It really is amazing.

 

I had a similar conversation with my bf on 2C-E. It all kicked off because my glowstick looked like a strand of DNA.

 

wow sounds like you had some serious thoughts. care to elaborate? I think I know what you mean but don't want to assume.

it sounds like you had a lot of side effects especially the day after. did you not eat before your trip or did the 2cE just tear your body up that good?

wow man 75 mg... do you think you'll ever go higher or are you set at 75 and below?

 

Sorry for the hurried, short report. I didn't put a lot of effort into writing that and didn't explain things that well. Sorry if I came across overzealous.


I don't know why, but I have a feeling of embarrassment and a slight feeling of guilt. I haven't read a lot of this thread. I may take some time off from tripping and the forums for a little bit just to get some perspective. I feel a lot better and not as depressed as yesterday. A night of sleep, some tea, food and vitamins did me well. It probably was not wise for me to take such a high dose and be alone (my trip buddy left before the peak because I went in another room [not out of spite, he just did not want to be alone]). I just realized I took 75 mg of a serious psychedelic with no connection or support channel. Although I am doing well now and had no problems, that was not the most responsible action I could have done. I had times where I felt I was dying and I had the choice to die or stay alive, I perceived this as me choosing to live right at the last second.


I do want to try some of my MXE before that break, though. As hypocritical as that sounds... What would be a good start up oral dose?


Thanks for the help in the recent and distant past. A lot of you guys supply a lot of information to not only me, but many people who take on the adventure of psychedelic drugs.


I'm nothing special and in no position to give advice, but I think everyone can suggest this: Be safe.


EDIT: I will try to elaborate in a short while (maybe a week or two). Another thing I remember is looking at my cat AND GETTING the fact that we are all one. I don't mean this in a romantic, stereotypical way. I actually understood that I was my cat. Almost as if an awareness is a giant ball of light and there are little circles that represent beings, the light shines through the circles... meaning, every circle (or being) shares the same light (or awareness/"soul"/spirit)... that is the best way I can describe it. I am not saying I am right, but that is a thought that I never had on any conscious level before that I all of the sudden had during the peak of this trip.


I also could see green...beings/forms in pitch black darkness. No light was needed. It was more of a translucent, green mist. It was sort of misty, but also looked like the texture of the pokemon Porygon. lol


To answer an earlier question, I may take 75 mg again when I am ready, I may even breach it, but I will have a support system. I may even have a sober (or at least stoned) sitter.

 

wow, man. it's weird, but i definitely see some similarities from my sub 20 mg doses of 2ce. i've definitely gotten the feeling that we are all ONE on my early 2ce trips. on my first one, i actually "felt like a cat," even though i didn't have one at that point.

i've also got guilty feelings from dosing 2ce. on the comedown i've questioned - why did i take it? all these things were in my first report from 12 mg. not to say in any way that the intensity of 12 mg is comparable to even 24 mg..let alone 75! just pointing out commonalities.

 

There's something to be said about 2C-E. I think it is underrated as far as being a profound/serious drug. I'm not saying I did not take it seriously. But, I did think of it as mainly a sensory overload with an electric body rush. I did not see it as a "candy" psychedelic, but I perceived it as having more "candy" aspects than others such as mushrooms, lsd, 4-aco-dmt, dpt, etc.

 

2ce definitely isn't "candy" at high doses. Even lower doses can have some people cowering in the corner. lol

 

compared to LSD and mushrooms, 2ce is more "candy" in my opinion, but i have taken away some useful things from tripping on 2ce

 

It can be candy-like at low doses, for some people, but higher doses can get pretty serious. lol Especially when the "darkness" starts creepin in.

 

still though, i think it lacks the mental effects of LSD for sure. even at higher doses of 2ce people report being able to think relatively clearly.

 

I think it lacks in the introspection area when compared to LSD, mushrooms, etc.

My thoughts were pretty clear for being on a high dose of a psychedelic last night, but I was still taken to a profound, paradoxical "place."

It reminded me a lot of my first ultra heavy mushroom trip, but with MUCH less confusion and a clearer mind. It allowed/allows for an easier to remember trip. A lot of profound LSD, mushroom and even high 4-aco-dmt trips can be hard to remember.

 

Very well put!

It's much more of a stable mental space compared to LSD which swings wildly from normal to completely distorted back again throughout the trip and mushrooms kind of have that feeling of heavily altered most the trip for me. 2ce still is a fairly deep and profound mental space.

 

holy fuck...i couldn't even imagine the body load.

 

Oh, it's definitely a lot more clear-headed, but it's easily more chaotic and it can get away from you, if you let it.

My last 2ce trip was bordering on psychotic. lol There were points when I actually thought I had murdered someone and I thought someone was gonna get revenge and murder me. I was also seeing bodies being chopped to pieces everytime I closed my eyes. It was some craziness. haha

 

This MXE feels nice. I wish I would have dosed higher than 37 mgs.

I find 2c-e's clear mindedness to be an asset... although, that was my only high dose.