2c-e = Discomfort

Yeah, 2-CE is much friendlier than LSD, nearly as easy to subside as mushrooms...however, I still disagree with you; at doses of 50 mg+ 2-CE is definitely at the same level of intensity as LSD. I enjoy the body load of 2-CE more than LSD, but like you say, it's alot harder on the body and can make the user quite uncomfortable at times (especially when mixed with 10 shots of Absinthe ).

 

Yeah, we are opposites in more ways than just opinions: I am way more tolerant than you with phenethylamines, and you are way more tolerant than me with tryptamines. 5 hits of acid was just overwhelming for me, whereas that's just the beginning for you. I even lost my sanity with 5 hits. That's the thing with these hallucinogens, everyone's body is different.

 

I'm just glad you found it after looking for so long...

 

Back to the issue of 2c-e vs. LSD, I wouldn't advise anyone to take more than 40 mg of 2c-e. Who knows at what level someone may get poisoned or permanently impaired, since so little is known about RCs.

The visuals I had with LSD were definitely more intense, but even the visuals were not that great. I mean, the visuals I get in dreams are much more vivid. Things move around a bit, light displays in concerts are amazing, but it's not like I see dragons or ghosts. Perhaps this is a peculiarity of my brain: I don't get very strong visuals, like some other people.

However, I say the LSD was overwhelming in the emotional effect it gave me. I definitely became paranoid, had a feeling of intensified fear, and my emotional state was magnified depending on how it was before the trip.

Whereas 2c-e brings time dilation, LSD completely obliterates time for me (I have difficulty understanding the concept).

LSD is a drug that distorts emotions at least as much as perceptions, if not more.

 

I find 2-CE much more emotionally-distorting than LSD; I find this to be true of phenethylamines in general, as compounds like MDMA have much stronger empatheogenic properties than, say, mushrooms.

 

I've got a question about 2CE. I've done it about 7-8x before in the 12-15mg range, and have never had any problems. I feel pretty comfortable with the substance. I was wondering if it would be a bad idea to double my dose (to ~25-30mg) the next time I do it. At 15mg, I was tripping very hard, though I probably coulda handled a bit more. I'm sure it would be smarter to just up the dose by 1/2 of an increment, but I don't have much material to be experimenting with dosages.

 

I'd move up to 25 mg's...it's not a big jump, but the effects are noticeably more intense.

 

I dunno, the difference between 15 and 25 is kind of a big one to me... If you haven't dosed out on good blotter before or taken a shitload of boomers, 25 will probably be the hardest psychedelic experience you've had so far...But I dunno your experience with other stuff, anywho the stomach discomfort is kind of bad at 25, be ready for a horrible body load during the come up.

 

Im reading all this stuff here about taking 40+mg's of 2C-E; Whoa now!!
please realize there are folks here who would freak out if they where to take a dose that high!

I just want to put this out here on the table folks.

If your going to use 2C-E, start off with 12 to 16mg's, your first time. For each 2mg's over, 2C-E doubles in strength.

Jezz 18mg's reminds me of a good old dose of 4-way windowpane! From all my reading there are more folks that are lite weights then hard heads; 40mg's can scar most folks.

Ok now, thats my 2 cents

 

nice 2 cents. I agree but I know 40 is well eatable. I have seen people go up to 100 mg with 2C-B, and 2C-I as well. Most of them regreted it at some point, even if they deny it now. I would say that most of these phenethylamines make me uncomfortable at higher doses. I would say 30 mg and up. I am mostly a tryptamine person though so I dunno. For phenethylamines I perfer MDMA. I really like DOB, and DOI though so I guess its a psychedelic amphetamine thing.

 

Double post sorry.

 

That's 2c-b and 2c-i. 2c-e is more powerful. The highest dosages I have heard of people taking is me, and eat_some_lsd. He's taken 55 mg's I think, I've taken somewhere around there maybe a little bit more since I was being an idiot licking the table, the plate I used to separate it, the scale, drinking the liquid I made and weighing out 20 mg's to eat after with my new mg scale... It was fun after the most horrible body load I have ever felt passed. It made me feel like I was actually going to have to go to the hospital.

Eat is a crazy guy... he actually didn't mind the body load too much I think he said... it's just too much for me and I rarely dose over 25 mg's on purpose now. I took something between 24-29 a couple weekends ago and had a blast, once again after the horrible body load passed. (Not as horrible as a dosage DOUBLE that though heh)

Like orange_sunshine_vet said though, 12-16 mg's is more than enough for some people; I fed someone 15 mg's once and he thought he was god.

 

No, only poor people are crazy...I'm eccentric.

The highest I dosed was 60 mg, and the bodyload was actually less bothersome at that dose than it was on 30-40 mg experiences; this maybe due to the ego loss, and one would also have to factor in the fact that I occasionally mix with alcohol.

I'd say 20 mg's would be a good dose...30 mg's is quite enjoyable, 40 mg's is pretty mind-bending...and 60 mg's, meh...overkill.

 

I've done lsd 2x, 2ci 2x, 5-meo-amt 4x, mushrooms (2 grams dry or so) like 7x, and 2ce 7-8x, a LOT of DXM trips, as well as other assorted trips/drugs. I think I'm relatively well experienced...I've had fuckin' GREAT trips on 12-15mg's of 2CE, but I'm a little curious about how a bigger dose would be. So is it worth doing then?

 

Heh, I dunno, it gets to a pretty high level of intensity. Most people can not handle over 18 mg's, if you're looking for an intense trip then it's good, but I like around 25. 15 if I'm trying to conserve.

 

Anyone ever conceder that 2C-E, has a reverse tolerance; I have.

it seems to get stronger the more you take it! 16 to 18mg does me fine, It's a pretty deep psychedelic IMHO

3C-E sounds like a winner too!

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal025.shtml

 

Ok, I ended up eating ~20mg's of 2CE, as well as a half eighth of mushrooms. I'm not sure how much of the effects were due to each, but I had the HARDEST trip of my fucking life, with INSANE visuals...

 

Hello, I recently tripped 2ce for the first time. I get the stuff in little vials and I believe it is dissolved in alcohol. I have no idea what the doseage inside one vial is. I tripped pretty hard visually, saw all kinds of colors and stuff. I wanted to double up on the dose but after reading about it's steep curve I was looking for some adivce on what to do. I have tripped on lsd once, but the lsd was shitty. I used to grow mushooms so I am very well aquainted with the mushroom experience in very high doses (13+ grams). If I trip two of these vials do you think it would be too much and do you think it would be dangerous.

 

Are you Likwid? I read a report(Come Up Is Kinda Long) on erowid about this shit and actually thought it was you while I was reading it because of the way it was written. For some reason, this sentence really made me think it was you; "I think I told some story about smoking mad blunts with satan". I think it was the part about the "mad blunts" that made me think it was you. I find you saying that alot on the forums. I read every report in erowid's 2c-e vault and this one stuck out as being yours. LOL it is a very detailed and well-written report, and I am now very excited to recieve my package. The report may not even be yours, but I thought it was as soon as I read it.

 

Def. the 2c-e brother, shit is strong. 20 mg's is way stronger than your average quarter of mushrooms, so unless they were like uber mushrooms from outer space, it was probably the 2c-e. Fun eh? ;-)

Well you'd probably be fine, but try to find out what the dosage is cause no sane person is going to give you a definite yes, eat another vial, without knowing the actual dosage. 2c-e is a strong chemical. You talking 13+ grams of fresh or dried boomers?

TopNotchStoner: lol yea that's def. me. Felt the need to write a report after doing 2c-e so dam much. That night with the god kid was fucked up haha... Some of it is edited I think, especially that first line I said "I've done 2c-e probably close to a hundred times" and they edited that first line. I've really had 2c-e experiences in all kinds of set and settings. After I stopped doing it every weekend most everybody who knows me was surprised when I wasn't tripping lol.