No worries, ive actually learned alot about it since i posted this thread. ive already done research on the chemical and dosage and all that jazz, i just wanted more detail on effects, and i did. thank you all :] [[BTW im stoned as hell too :]]
I wanna start high with e because I started higher than my friends with acid, and it was the most amazing trip I've ever had. If 2ce is what its been made out to be then I should thoroughly enjoy 20-25 even on a first dose.
i find that 2c-e (and 2c-i/2c-t-2) have relatively small effects on me. i need a 25mg dose of 2c-e to get to about the same point as my friend using about 16mg. i havent had any spiritual or lifechanging experiences with phenethylamines after about 12 different uses. it effects me more visually then cognitavely it seems
^^^Ditto. I've had similar experiences because, even though 2ce has always made me trip balls, I have to take much higher doses to get the same effects as other folks.
Gonna start w approx 25mg tomorrow. First time with e. Gonnna have to see how it is cracked up to be against the others. b and i atleast to say.
I hear it is one of the few mind bending rc's out there. Planning on breaking my ego and re asssembling it if possible.
I've never been able to lose my ego on 25mg, but 50-60mg sure does the trick. My cousin lost his mind on 25mg though. Let us know how it goes man.
Right. With the B it takes same amount but still do not lose ego. Visually outrageous though!(70mg) Have found with rc's the mind fuck is not present. Exception probably of dmt which still yet got 2 try as well.
Well, tryptamines are more suitable for ego loss than phenethylamines are, but it's still possible with some phens. 63mg of 2ce turned me into the chair I was sitting in, then I proceeded to dissolve and turn into pure electrical energy. Twas incredible.
Nah man. It destroyed my ego a couple of times. The 63mg trip, particularly. After the point where I became electrical energy, I actually don't remember much. I was just chillin in the chair the whole time with Grandma's Boy on the tv, but I basically don't remember ANYTHING after the first part of the movie, aside from existing in a world made up entirely of electrical currents. Another time, on 40mg of 2ce with 15mg of 2ci, I remember watching myself, from a distance, and I saw myself being attacked by a giant octopus, then the octopus morphed into a tree and I was released. I haven't really taken the time to think about what it meant, from a metaphorical standpoint, but it was very strange. That doesn't really constitute "ego-death", but it was definitely one of the high points of my psychedelic career.
yea as soon as i posted that i meant to add "unless you go to really high doses" but even at 18 or 20mg it dissolved bits of my ego at least. i don't really know what ego death is exactly, but i felt one with all humanity. so it wasn't one with EVERYTHING, but it was def a HIGH point in my psychedelic career as well. :cheers those mugs have 2C-E:H2O in 'em
hahaha I wish I had those mugs right now. To me....to experience ego-death means you cease to exist as your physical self and your surrounding also cease to exist. Perhaps some sort of psychedelic oblivion.
well i think i've only been close. i've felt before that i wasn't MY (normal) physical self, but i was still physical. and my surroundings have always been there..just distorted. when i close my eyes though i am taken away and i am not myself anymore, or myself becomes someone (everyone?) else
i think it's all pretty subjective, but i get the impression that at a high enough dose any psychedelic could kill your ego, you just might never come back.
i think you almost always "come back" or else i'm gonna have an unpleasant trip next time i think i've went too far
lol It would be a pleasant surprise for a 2ce trip to last a week or so, but I'm not sure if I'd like to "never come back". lol Maybe though.
Hmm. I think most anything except for Cannabis has ego loss at enormous amounts. Unless I am mistaken, of course. I have no experience with true psychs, only DXM, which I believe can cause ego loss at super high amounts, over 600MG. Alcohol... blacking out, passing out, too much alcohol, does that qualify as ego loss if you pass out? Seems like any intoxicant at super high amounts could cause ego loss... Should clarify on the specifics of ego loss.
