Yah i'm kind of with you on this one, I think I will try it once more at a heroic dose but so far it's visually impressive but does lack depth to me too. Contrary to I guess what many or a lot say I find 2ci to be more mentally involved and deep than 2ce.
u and one of my friends are the first that ive heard to shit their brains out lol. they were like wtf is this shit u gave me!?
The first and only time my cousin took 2ce, he took 25mg and, at one point, he looked at me and said "my soul just busted a nut, dude". That was the only positive part of the trip for him though. The rest of the trip was pure terror.
BUUUMMPP for 2CE my long time companion. She was my first ever many years back, and I have been reunited with her tonight. I had forgotten how potent... how damn damn potent
i have done up to 60mg & have only had one trip less then 20mg... with no problems at all lol. i don't really know what this means unless you are multiple females who have experimented on different 2ce doses.
would 24 mg's be too strong for a first dose do you guys think? I'm a little experienced i guess with psychs, multiple shroom trips, 1 acid trip, few DMT breakthroughs. I could otherwise do just 12 mg's but i dont want that to be too week to really be worth my time -its cause the guy i'd get it from sells gel caps with 12 mg's or else 24 mg's
12 mg is good if you are doing it by yourself, or intend to be sociable while on it. 24 will be a breakthrough experience that will be borderline unenjoyable with at least one other person on the same page as you, at least in my experience; some people dose much higher. 12 will not be a waste of time though
Took about 16 last night and it was plenty. Was by myself and quite lonely when everyone went to sleep. Good thing for classical music
In my experience, 12mg would be a waste of time. I'd recommend 24-36mg Be prepared for a pretty powerful trip though. 2ce ain't no joke. lol
For sure go with 24 mgs. Its a heavy trip but if you have experience with some of the others you should be chill. I find LSD to be a more 'intense' trip (although you didn't say dosage), 2ce doesnt quite rattle the brain the same way as LSD for me its just heavy because of the body load and 24-25 is the highest I've gone orally with 2ce too. I find mentally besides the body discomfort its actually a relaxed/pleasant mental space. Its a fully involved experience at this dose though which I like.
you could ask the person to weigh you out an 18 mg dose, or take 1.5 of his 12 mg doses. i've done 2ce almost 20 times, but never more than 20 mg. my first time was 12 mg and i certainly wouldn't call it a waste of time, although i could have handled something a bit more intense - maybe 15 mg would have been a good starting dose for me. here's my first 2ce trip report, followed by various others http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=334029&f=126 ^^^also on erowid with a few edits. "Looks like Snow" i think it's called and here's the first ~12 mg from my 2nd batch http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=373480&f=126
My buddy, who is experienced with shrooms, L, and DMT, finally tried some 2ce the other weekend. He took 30mg, really liked it, didn't say anything about negative physical effects, and he told me he was really surprised how hard he tripped. Really surprised haha. 25-30mg is my recommendation, 24mg for sure.
first few times I did 2ce I mixed it with 2ci, and together they were in the 45-55 mg range. So i figured .37 2ce solo would be no problem. lol, perhaps the most intense trip I have ever fucking had, awesome as it was I wouldn't recommend it.
Ok so last night I upped my dose to 30mg and OMG! that was an AMAZING experience. I finally figured out how to express myself musically. I saw some things that made me cry and some things that were simply amazing insights. The bummer was waking up this morning finding out my friend died in the night every new beginning starts with some other beginnings end though.