2ci & 2cc

what i don't understand is why so many people find it to be so "dark"... i believe it is a very beautiful, euphoric and enlightened experience.. all is well in the world when i'm on 2c-e

 

As your attorney I would advise you to bark at the moon and swear like a sailor. That's the only way you'll get through a psychedelic experience of that magnitude without damaging your chances of reproducing.

 

I find it to be dark as fuck, but also very beautiful and euphoric. "Dark" doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.

I've gone as high as 63mg, but I do plan on upping it to 75mg as soon as I have the opportunity to do so. There's a report in this forum somewhere where a guy dosed 200mg of 2ce with 500mg of MDMA and it sounds awesome. haha

*Edit* Here it is: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=160038&highlight=200mg&f=126

 

i don't really find it to be dark either, but maybe that's more recognizable on higher doses.

 

I don't know about all that. My last 2ce trip was probably the darkest trip I've ever had on anything, and it was only 38mg. Of course, the insanity of that trip could probably be attributed to my state of mind around that time. I was going through some shit.

 

to me and joker that's a higher dose

but really i just think it's much like other psychedelics...it can be very positive, neutral or negative, depending.

 

Definitely. I've seen someone have the worst night of their life on 25mg of 2ce.

 

2ce has not really been dark for me either but it can certainly be heavy. I find it quite colorful and beautiful actually. 2ct2 is probably the only 2cx I've done that consistently had a darker, colder edge if I were to try to attribute that quality to a chem. Probably a reason its not as popular as well. But when it comes to psychedelics I think porkstock is right in that there is a high variability in emotion with psychedelics based on numerous variables.

 

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Fuck paypal

 

It's decent for ebay.

 

I hate paypal, especially in canada. 6-8 business days to transfer funds from bank to paypal, WTF?

 

2-3 in the UK, definite 2 days if you pay 5 pound.

 

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Because shortly after that night I didn't use any other drugs because that trip freaked me out. It was on the level of DPT before I aborted with trazadone (This was about 35 min after taking it!). I am not 100% sure, but it feels like it. And when it feels like it it is usually right for me; drug wise. And it makes most sense that I would get HPPD because of that trip when it happened 1-2 days after I did that.

Yes, a higher dose of 2c-i is was better than a higher dose of 2c-e. Considering 2c-e is more powerful. I wouldn't do 50mg of either. I said high dose, not crazy dose. ~35mg of 2c-i is a nice high dose that gives a very fun happy time.

2C-I strong trips are around 20-30mg
vs
2C-E strong trips are around 15-20mg

So when I say don't take 50mg of 2c-e, its because that is 2.5 times higher than a "strong trip". 35mg of 2c-i is only .17 times higher than a "strong trip".

And, I am confident that these 2c-* chemicals cause HPPD because I have had friends who have only done those and experience it, while I don't hear much about it from DPT. Even on the forums people say that 2c's gave them HPPD. But research needs to be compiled in a scientific way in order for either one of us to know for sure.

See, don't risk it until you know you like 2c-e.

And about the darkness. I feel that it pushes in a depressed dark way, in the way MDMA pushes in a good mood (less intense though). This makes it interesting though because it makes it different, and more "alien" to me. Though, I still hate it.

 

Just received 250mg of 2c-i, it's an off whitish yellowish colour, anyone ever had 2c-i like this before it's always been white in the past

 

Mines always been white.

 

Hmmmm I suppose it IS white, just slightly off. Yellowish was an exaggeration.
Associated documents claim it's 2c-i and the vendor's reputable enough, so we shall see I guess..

 

shit... One time, I snorted approx. 75+mg each of 2C-I & 4-AcO-DMT... LOST MY FUCKING MARBLES IN MERE SECONDS.

also, ended up in jail while tripping for doing some crazy shit...

jail + tripping SUCKS

OH YEAH! At first I was so disoriented I couldn't verbalize coherent thought, I wet myself, then noticed HEAVY beating in my chest (enough to worry). I also immediately couldn't read, recite the alphabet, or count past three. Strange shit it was.

bad, bad scene.

 

What compelled you to take such high doses of two powerful psychedelics?