2ct2 or methylone

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by illusion25, Jul 26, 2006.

  1. The Flow

    The Flow Member

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    1st problem: almost all methamphetamines (incl. Methylone) dehydrate you. Alcohol dehydrates you even more. This can lead to dangerous dehydration as well as to a life-threatening hypokaliaemia.

    2nd problem: if you drink alcohol, a large part is destroyed in the liver even before it gets a chance to reach your brain. Methylone has a higher priority in your liver, so no alcohol metabolization will occur. It´ll be like intravenously injecting alcohol - you have almost no chance to control the dosage!

    3rd problem: Methylone works primarily in the serotonine system, alcohol in the dopamine system and on your internal morphine receptors. If you´re coming down from methylone, your serotonine system is already begging for mercy. Now activate the dopamine system; this will result in a new activation of large parts of your primary and secondary cortexes, as well of the amygdala and the hypothalamic systems. Without any proper control from the serotonergic synapses, this will result in uncontrollable aggressions and maybe even a horror trip.

    If you´re crazy enough, try it! But I will stay away from these combos!
     
  2. illusion25

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    ^^ what he said. plus alcohol deadens the mind. makes you slow and stupid.
    psychedelics manifest the mind.
    you are pretty much ruining the whole trip to feel a little drunk. a waste if you ask me.
     
  3. bananadine

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    Illusion: I'm not talking about getting blotto, I'm talking about a couple of beers to help relax during the oft-mentioned long, speedy, un"psychedelic" comedown after the short initial trip. A couple of beers at the tail end of 2C-I is just the ticket, I find; I was wondering if there were any contraindications for methylone. It looks like there might be, if what Flow said is true in his second and third points. Anyone got any data to the contrary?
     
  4. The Flow

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    Read Shulgin´s publications on this topic, e.g. on erowid.
     
  5. illusion25

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    valiumor xanxa will work better than alcohol.
    thats my opinion from personal experence
     
  6. bananadine

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    ^ Where do I get some "valiomor xanxa"? Is it a herbal high? ;)
     
  7. illusion25

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    valium or xanax. they are pills. duh
     
  8. The Flow

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    From my experience, temazepam works much better (and not so long lasting) than diazepam ("Valium"). Temazepam is sold under many different names, e.g. "Remestan".
     
  9. MyOwnReality

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    I like a brainwave generator personally... But all those drugs are effective, not to mention a Soma is even better if your tense from dancing all night or something else.

    Methylone 25 dollars a gram? Jesus christ my sources are committing highway robbery! Even the email ones are like 4x the price... Its enough so that I've never bothered to buy any simply because of financial restraints.

    *action plots and schemes on how to get into Flow's circle*
     
  10. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    that converson comes out to more like $31.... but the extra 6 bucks is nothing.
     
  11. bananadine

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    Is it the high noise-to-signal ratio on HipForums, or are you personally immune to jokes? I even put a nice smiley face after to signal jokiness. 'scool, though; it's not even the dumbest question that's been asked here!

    (scary, isn't it?)
     
  12. bananadine

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    Man, that's Borscht-cheap. I can't hardly even get McDonald's fries for $30/g! You lucky divvil.
     
  13. The Flow

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    I must admit, my resources are at 20 bucks for a gram already... :sunglasse
     
  14. illusion25

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    ""scool, though; it's not even the dumbest question that's been asked here!""
    thats why i replied with seriousness, not directly to you but to the question. you never know who is serious or not on these forums. :)

    flow- damn $20 a gram?!
    i am jealous.
    pm me if you want to trade some sources. i want that methylone
     
  15. ravenrules

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    HOLY SHIT! 20 bucks a gram?! I am really jealous.
     
  16. bananadine

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    Alright, after a bunch of searching I can't find them. Probably mea culpa. Flow, can you please post a link if you have it handy? That would be really useful; if there is a danger in combining alcohol and methylone, that should be a meme that spreads, but it's nice to have a serious anchor for a meme (in order to distinguish it from an urban myth.... Not that you don't sound authoritative!) Thanks.
     
  17. Johndoe881

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    The flow please delete some messages in your inbox!
     
  18. The Flow

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    Done!
     
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