2nd amendment supporters

Discussion in 'Politics' started by hillbillyhippy, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. sunfighter

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    I'm not infringing on anyone's rights. This is a free speech forum.
     
  2. hillbillyhippy

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  3. hillbillyhippy

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    Yes i know that, and you do have the freedom of speech, but as soon as you talk about making laws, that go against other constitutional rights, that is infringing on my rights sir
     
  4. sunfighter

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    Well OK. Let me re-phrase. I think it would be sporting of you, if you feel compelled to kill deer, to use a bow and arrow like the ones used long ago by Native Americans.

    I am not pushing for any law that would take your precious guns away.
     
  5. hillbillyhippy

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    but some of the native americans switched to guns when they found it was a better method....

    thank you for rephrasing. As long as you don't try to push a law that take mine away, we won't have any problems, and even if you did you would still be entitled to have your opinion, because i support the whole constitution. Often times a deer shot with a bow is injured more often, and then we have to track it, so guns are better in a sense.
     
  6. EL Tuna

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    Yeah, I need help cleaning them and loading up my 30rd magazines. You offering to help clean and prep?

    You're anti-gun? Suck a fart out of my asshole, Im an American and have the rights of bearing arms and free speech.



    Ill keep them where they sit, They want them, Come and get them. Funny thing is, 99% of the sheriffs who would be the first to do this, Said they WILL not because they took an oath to uphold the constitution and 'right to bear arms' and will side with the true red blooded American.



    My SKS has 30rd mag's, Fixed bayonet, Sling and cleaning kit in the stock. Its a carbine just like an AR or Colt and you can tape a knife to the en if you want to. But all carbines like said, Are already fixed and ready for a bayonet so all you have to do is buy the knife/bayo. Fixed or not, You can have a bayonet if you want, Just not practical unless you are getting bulldogged.
     
  7. EL Tuna

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    Fuck that, .308 or 30-06 is the best bet, One shot, One kill.
     
  8. StpLSD25

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    Well actually they used Police and NG to disarm people after Katrina, but then alot of people we're victimized by government including women getting raped by police. But hey, Liberals think government is better with their guns, so everyone turn Em in :rolleyes:
     
  9. sunfighter

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    Why do you keep implying that liberals, or anybody, wants anyone to turn their guns in? The fact that you keep doing that makes you sound like a nut.
     
  10. EL Tuna

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    Thats what the libtards want. One day a 'ban', Next day they will want them. Its fact they want to try and pull as much shit as possible with firearms to any kind of 'ban' in motion.
     
  11. monkjr

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    Well I think it should be stated that these attempts at certain types of gun bans are motivated by curtailing the effects of only a CERTAIN KIND of crime profile involving guns:

    The Columbine and Sandy Hook type scenario, and NOT gun crime overall like a typical robbery scenario.

    If the goal is to reduce gun crime overall, any ban is gonna fail, but to look at specifically mass shooting type scenario outcomes being reduced during implementation of a certain kind of assault weapons ban in addition to better backround checks haven't been done.

    Adam Lanza, to my knowledge only had access to weapons legally obtained, he did not have connections to get the guns on the black market.

    Now thug-life criminal types would have access to any type of gun, so I doubt city gun violence would feel much of an impact at all. But then if the goal is not to reduce gun violence overall but rather a certain type of crime profile, then the legislation of a ban might be a success within that context.

    Regardless, I'm against bans though.
     
  12. EL Tuna

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    Adam Lanza was turned away from two gun shops a couple weeks before hand, One he didn't pass the background check and the other 'he looked like a weirdo' so they declined service.

    After that, He killed his mom and had all the guns and ammo he needed. All the so called 'blocks' were there, Except criminal mind(s) and murder to obtain them.
     
  13. monkjr

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    Actually, talking about making laws isn't an infringement on rights

    However, if Congress or any lower legislative body or executive body does actions to pass laws that infringe on the bill of rights, THEN it becomes an infringement on your/my rights.

    All that's happening here is all hypothetical talk, and is completely protected by the 1st Amendment.
     
  14. monkjr

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    Why wasn't his mom and local police notified of his attempts to purchase and failing to purchase guns at those stores? In my humble opinion, red flags should've gone up at that point.

    I should also state that I believe that mental health reform also needs to be a huge part of reducing mass shootings like Sandy Hook and Columbine as well.

    It's not JUST about backround checks, I know that.

    I only mentioned backround checks because the context of this forum was about the 2nd amendment only, not on mental health reform. I try not to go too off topic.


    AND at

    I consider myself liberal, but you've completely alienated and over generalized me with your statements about what "liberals" believe in.

    For instance you say liberals are for gun bans, which I am not for.

    You guys are being inaccurate in your stereotypes and therefore your argumentation.
     
  15. EL Tuna

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    Unless you are a felon or a nut ball who shits in his hand and throws it, There is no way in hell I will ever be asked or speak a work to a 'mental health' fuckwad. Its my right, Plain and simple and no quack doctor is going to be the 'one' who says who gets to bear arms or not.

    IIRC, He went out of state or next city? To try and buy the weapons and ammo. They cant call his mom or cops with nothing but a failed background check. If that was the case all the cops would be busy 'checking' a worthless point, Time and money.

    The mother was going to send him away the following week to the 'nut hut'. She knew he was a nut job and still kept her firearms in the house and a couple laying around.
    She 1 should have took all of them out until he was locked up, Or 2 put them all in the gun safe and give the key to a neighbor/close friend who you can share WHY they are holding said key.

    Plus the fact its obvious they didn't do too much to prevent school shootings by placing real guards and not paul blart's.
     
  16. hillbillyhippy

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    Again correct, I should of said if you try to get congress to pass said laws, it will infringe on the bill of rights and infringe my rights.
     
  17. hillbillyhippy

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    correct, I should of said if you try to get congress to pass said laws and they are passed, or you physically try to take my guns away from me, it will infringe on the bill of rights and infringe my rights.
     
  18. deviate

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffI-tWh37UY"]Feinstein in 1995: 'Mr. and Mrs. America, Turn Them All In' - YouTube

    Still confused about who are the nuts?
     
  19. Mr.Writer

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    You linked a 45 second video clip of ONE POLITICIAN in 1995 saying she wished she could have gotten all ASSAULT STYLE weapons in HER STATE.

    hardly "the government wants to take your guns"

    she seemed like a perfectly reasonable lady. I would have thrown my vote in.
     
  20. deviate

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    You're not even a citizen.. so your opinion matters how?

    And the senate does not vote on state issues, it votes on federal.

    Furthermore, anyone who follows the gun issue knows where she stands about it. Yet she carries a concealed pistol like every other anti-gun gov't hypocrite.
     

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