4 aco DMT fumarate

Lol. Why would you take this rectally? You chimed in with an odd fact. Its active at 20mg, so I prob wouldn't try to plug it anyways.

2c-xs have higher bioavail. through anus? I haven't heard of that. Hmmmm, good to know...

 

Where do you guys get this fumarate vs. hydrochloride stability data?

Fumarates are salts of fumaric acid. Most salts (all?) will dissolve in water, so the fumarate should as well. The only "problem" I see with that is that it will take more mass (higher dose) to get the same effects as 4-aco-dmt HCl, because the fumarate ion takes up more mass than a hydrochloride ion. Thus your O-Acetylpsilocin or psilocetin supply would be used up faster.

 

DUH you retard! Shit...

The pigs fly south on easter morning.

I forgot about this... I knew it all along, but I was wondering why my friends were only getting body highs off of 20mg... Thats because its furmarate! DUH... Thanks maingo!

 

Yeahhh 20 mg was kinda lame. I plan on doing 30mg next time

 

dayum that really sucks i thought 250 mgs would give me 25 moderate or 15 strong trips, sounds like its more like 10 moderate or 5 strong . . . bit of a let down but that STILL puts the cost of a strong tryptamine trip at like 15$, which is still sinfully cheap for what you get out of it.

 

yeah a little disappointing.... I was thinking 25mgs would be as potent as an 1/8 of GOOD shrooms, i guess the fumarate does make a bit difference in potency.... oh well still gonna order250mgs next payday