hahaha I wasnt blowing smoke when I said its painful. Im injection is the way to go with this one. Alot of people been plugging it and say its less potent than k. I think its stronger than k by a good amount via im requiring less dosage. It lasts about twice as long as well. I will say I have used im injection two days in a row now and noticed a tolerance. Also the 'hangover' from Im lasted practically the whole next day as where with k its usually about half the day or morning for me. I felt like I had 3-4 shots of liquor the whole day and my walking was a bit unsteady even at work. But goddamn the first 1/2 hr of this stuff is euphoric through im. The thought process is altered but I don't find this stuff as visually interesting as ketamine either. Theres nothing really psychedelic about which is both good and bad. I never thought ketamine was psychedelic after maybe the first few times using it and it cuts out alot of the the bullshit pseudo psychedelia of k and is just euphoric and long lasting.
OH, if you IM'd it i can do that myself. i'll just have to get a needle...and i'm ON IT for friday...i have no objection to a weekend long mild dissociative state
homegrownideas, wheres your TR? and everyone else who got this stuff what did you all think? trip reports please!!
I put a trip report on bluelight, I would link it but I'm on an iPod touch at the moment and think I need an app to do that. This stuff doesn't really deserve a trip report anyways, I only posted it because of my route of administration. Injection was the only worthwhile method I found with this one, I tried plugging but eh it was kind of shitty. (hahaha) It's great through I'm injection, I found superior to ketamine in euphoria and lacked the sedation. Definitely still disassociating though and it wasn't very impressive visually with lights on but turn them down a bit and it has some weird visual effects. Mental proccess is quite unique, thoughts and inner dialogue moved very quickly. A tranquilized hangover lasts practically the entire following day so don't have to much planned the following day. There's nothing mindexpanding with this one, I relegate it as a junkie drug but if you are looking for disassociative euphoria and dont mind using the needle, I think it surpasses Dxm and k.
as i've said previously, i doubt it will surpass K. at least in my opinion. in my nasal and rectal doses, it did NOT have the anxiolytic properties ket does.
I agree, eventhough I don't know what anxiolytic means. K is a bit more comforting because of the sedation, and you can snort it fairly easily which is more appealing then injection to many. You feel more intoxicated I guess on k, but goddamn that first 1/2 hr of 4 Meo PCP feels good, and the fact it lasts almost twice as long is pretty nice too.
Those both mean the same thing, you know. And guerillabedlam, anxiolytic just means "preventing anxiety".
I have a large dissociative tolerance and i believe 4-MeO-PCP is expensive, do you think this drug is a complete waste of time for me. note; i need 500mg of K to get me feeling wrecked and i don't even trip off it anymore. Even if i do no K for months the tolerance doesn't seem to make much difference, same thing happened with Nitrous as well.