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Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Maelstrom, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. Maelstrom

    Maelstrom Banned

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    That is a common misconception that gets thrown around too much by those who do believe in something. By its very definition, atheism is the veritable lack of belief in a higher power. There is nothing in which to believe and, therefore, atheism is not a religion.
     
  2. bird_migration

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    You believe that there is nothing to believe in.
     
  3. Maelstrom

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    There is a difference in believing and having a belief.
     
  4. Jo King

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    You're belief is not to believe
     
  5. Maelstrom

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    Words have multiple meanings for a reason. Just as truth is often misconstrued by some people who do not understand that one can believe in the standard truth of something without compromising his ideals in falling for the Truth of the existence of a higher power, one can also believe that a God does not exist without having it turned into the concept that must meet certain criteria in order to be considered a Belief.
     
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    I hope that helps, sorry about the large graphics.

     
  7. thedope

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    And what about those with a complete brain?
     
  8. Maelstrom

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    I see that humor is something you still possess. I am surprised it is not a barrier toward enlightenment.
     
  9. thedope

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    A sense of humor makes the other wise thin skinned impervious to pricks.
     
  10. Maelstrom

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    I knew you had a bad side. You are not so perfect after all, and that is a relief.
     
  11. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    I couldn't care less what Christians do or don't do. Don't want to convert them.
     
  12. Maelstrom

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    You do not have to. However, remember that religion causes real harm to society. There is proof enough throughout history to what harm religion has caused society. If one is ignorant to the harms of religion, then you cannot claim that government is bad because they are both one and the same.
     
  13. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    How condescending to feel that there is only one answer for all.

    How sad to agrue that point.
     
  14. Maelstrom

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    If you could be less vague, perhaps I could respond to you. Besides, how can there both be a god and not be a god?
     
  15. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    I think it's the opposite. It's societies that are really fucked up that are most religious. They aren't fucked up because they are religious. They are religious because they are fucked up.

    Give people opportunity and civil liberties, and suddenly...ooops, they become less and less religious.

    What are the most religious societies worldwide? The poorest, the most oppressive.

    I don't think religion does anything. It's like marriage. Marriage is much ado about nothing. A ring and a white dress does not keep anyone from cheating. Yet, people like to confuse ritual for reality.

    And the harsher the reality, the more they need to cover it up with ritual.
     
  16. Maelstrom

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    America disagrees with you. Besides, the only reason many third world societal beings identify with Christianity is due to the fact that missionaries have stripped them of their beliefs and cultures, much the same way our American ancestors did to the Indians.
     
  17. Cherea

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    Who is most religious in the U.S.? Which part of the country? How does the U.S. poverty rate fare in comparison with Europe and Japan? Now take a look at the rate of religiosity in each of those societies. Do you not see a pattern?
     
  18. Maelstrom

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    Just about the majority.
     
  19. Cherea

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    As far as I know, atheists are heavily concentrated on the coasts and in the North. When you get to bumfuck Alabama, what do you see? Mo' Jesus freaks. Mo' Bible thumpers. Mo' KKK.

    Also, take New York City. Who's are the most religious? Hispanics (the poorest group).

    In Chicago, who's most religious? Blacks, etc.

    Worldwide, who's most religious? Africa, South Asia, The Middle East, South America.

    It is classical atheist scholarship, the poorest/more oppressive a society is, the more religious. There is a graph with that correlation based on a study, if I find it, I'll post it.
     
  20. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    For any person to claim that they have the answer and it is the only one is not a quest for anything other than themselves.

    Pretty much what every wacko leader of any belief has done throughout history.

    What you choose to believe and what is your comfort level is a good place to be on a personal level. To use that to belittle others views is not furthering your belief nor is it justified.

    To those who disbelieve there is not proof that will change that.

    To those who believe in a higher power there is no proof that it does not exist that will change that.

    Live and let live is perhaps the best way to live and to coexist and if more people simply applied that to life, it would be far more productive for all.

    If someone who does believe in a faith that is contrary to yours and yet accepts what you believe as being just that, your belief, why is it so difficult to then accept theirs as being just that, their belief.
     

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