5 Levels of Acid

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by -_-HitMan-_-, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. wutthe4k

    wutthe4k Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    it's hard to describe but it was pretty fucked up. i kept losing and regaining my ability to realize what was going on. i layed on my bed for god knows how long and just experienced waking dreams. once i regained my ability to walk and got off my bed it was a regular bad trip and i didn't think i was going to snap out of it.

    this was a result of eating a quarter of some of the best shrooms i or my dealer has ever seen. all in all it lasted about 10 hours or so and i had after effects lasting the next few days of depression and just not feeling myself.


    while were on the subject of mushrooms...has anyone ever had their ears pop and get fucked up for hours?
     
  2. ManaSmoker

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    I agree completely, Leary completely ruined what the 60's movement sought to accomplish.
     
  3. burnabowl

    burnabowl Dancing Tree

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    leary didn't ruin shit and the 60's movement didn't fail to accomplish what it sought to. the only thing i can see leary did wrong was assume everyone was as smart as he was.
     
  4. orjamicman

    orjamicman Member

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    dude that's what was wrong with the 60's hippie movement altogether, they thought that with such freedoms, everyone could get along. All the "good" hippies thought everyone could be like them, but then no one took the responsibility that comes with freedom, and it all get messed up, people abused everything, took advantage of the time, and people like Charles Manson came about.

    If you think that Leary is outdated, just look at all that stuff now... People think acid is horrible because of how people abused it and couldn't moderate things.
     
  5. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    i dont think leary did anything wrong. i think his time was wrong. but if he had come at a later time.. well then his time would never come. That is to say, he had to occur when he did in order to be as great as he was, even if he could never be perfect. no one can be perfect. In order for people to be receptive to some words, these words must link new meaning with old meaning. If all the meaning was new, well then the words would not be comprehensive.
    But within a mind, people can far surpass the limits of words. People can thus always be more intelligent than they can ever express.

    The world needs another voice. there are no voices today.

    Everyone wanted freedom of speech, freedom of expression. they wanted it so bad. So the compromise is that we have freedom to do anything that is within the law. An expression that results in death, of course, is technically a cause of that death.

    What could be said that leary did wrong is that he was only an idea to those who listened, and to all else he was just a man. When his words confused and threatedned other men, they sought to destroy him, and their sons will follow on in their confusion.

    When I think about it, I change my mind, and I agree that What leary did wrong was assume everyone was as *something* mas he was.. but i dont know if thats just smarts. It takes more (and less) than what the word smart implies, to handle psychedelics. Leary gave acid to people who went back to their families and crumbled. These people's lives were ruined. And it was because of Leary.. in that they would not have crumbled if not for him.. but thats not to say he is responsible for it.
    Unfortunately, people can say of any accepted offer that the acceptor was merely avoiding offence to the offerer. Or that the offerer offered more than he gave.
     
  6. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Same thing happened to me the other week with 6 hits of acid. Same thing happened to me last year with an 1/8 of mushrooms too. It was like during the comeup, totally fine, getting into the transition. Next thing you know reality starts bubbling out in geometric spheres, molecules start breaking apart and existence itself turned into a nightmare of dreams, thinking that I am controlling reality, thinking Im being controlled, thinking time keeps repeating and that Im never going to wake up :tongue: Sucks when that happens, it's the complete opposite of everything that is good lol. It's happened to me probably 10 or so times but those two I mentioned were the most overwhelming.
    Lately, as in the past 2 weeks, I've been having very uncomfortable and powerful trips with acid. I get a feeling right as it starts working that my left arm is falling asleep, and it spreads through my whole body. The visuals and the mind fuck are no problem, never have been. But the total feeling of my blood boiling and like Im poisoned really really blows. Im sure that anxiety is the cause of it, I believe that the numb sensation of the body is caused by both anxiety and by malnutrition. I am not a person who suffers from anxiety or from paranoia, and even though I dont 'fear' my trips, latley this keeps happening and I can barely manage to tell myself to just accept it and ride with the trip.
    To be honest, I dont think Im going to be ever dropping acid again. Might not even eat any more mushrooms, at least not any time soon. I can blame it on my own personal shortcomings and self-centerdness, as well as taking literally hundreds of trips on various psychedelic drugs in the past 6-7 years. I've already surpassed a lifetimes worth of tripping, and now it has become nothing more than pure abuse of a chemical that is meant to teach and to heal. I've done it to myself really, and now I know to abstain until I've worked out my own karma.
    This level 5 or whatever, moksha, nirvana, zen etc. is only attainable when you can control your senses from encroaching on your position in the Absolute. Otherwise you end up fighting yourself and get lost in the dream world and have to wait for your physical/mental control to regain it's position of being in charge. I've been severley lazy lately concerning mediation and personal growth, and I've been burned for it this summer.
    God Bless +
     
  7. Kizen

    Kizen Member

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    that was a beautiful post relayer,

    self-discipline in your routine gets easier and easier the more you do it, until it just becomes second nature.

    u kno, like brushing your teeth :tongue:

    lol
     
  8. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Thank you friend!
    And yes, I need to brush my teeth more often haha. Im so lazy about personal growth and health that its embarassing. But I wasnt always this way, last year I spent nearly half of any free time from work I had doing meditation, showering before every session, eating healthy and spending my time with my son as a father rather than a friend.
    But lately, well, Im just lazy, no other way around it. And naturally being forced to confront your utter laziness is no fun.
    God Bless! +
     
  9. Kizen

    Kizen Member

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    Doesn't last forever though does it, i mean you only slipped lol

    I resist the urge to quote a certain guy who said something about doing what you want and what you like hehe

    you can do whatever you like though you know! I recieve love lol and as long as you keep giving love...then yea.

    :D
     
  10. burnabowl

    burnabowl Dancing Tree

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    I dig ya, I do. It was a common assumption after swimming through transcendentalism that it was a panacea and that all would be utopian and well if people had the experience, but as it happened and happens ppl can be ill-prepared for it and the bigger the movement got the more distorted the central message was (mostly because there was no shamanic precedent and a guy like Leary would be seen as dangerous). The summer of love might be the biggest testament to it because after such ecstasy in the spring ppl assumed it would just get better and that's when all forms of human life entered the scene to prove that humanity isn't all rapture and ecstasy, that there's a force that is equal in power but opposite in nature on the other side of the coin.

    The reason I don't think the 60's failed at all is that that phenomenon wasn't anything brand new, it was just a more extreme case of humanity, on both ends of the spectrum. It was similar to Pandora's box that once it gets released it's released, and all the rapture and ecstasy bubbled to the surface as well as the friction, divisions and hatred. It was a big inhale/exhale pattern and it continues today.

    The thing I appreciate most from the 60's movement is the precedent they set. They weren't the heirs of a new age, they were the parents of it, and there is much surrounding us today that are direct outputs of the movement (PC's, internet, modern ecology, alternative lifestyles). IT's like they built a bridge that we can now freely use. The shock-factor was broken back then and they got the ball rolling toward universal social acceptance.

    I went down to Hempfest yesterday and there were scores of people from all interest groups. People from the streets were there as well as people from churches, all there to show their enthusiasm for MJ. Police were riding by on horses and on foot but everyone freely toked, as did I. I couldn't go enjoy such an experience and still say that the 60's failed.
     
  11. orjamicman

    orjamicman Member

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    Oh yeah man for sure, I didn't meant that the hippies failed, I think that they accomplished a lot and now there is a little bit of that everywhere. Although they're attempt for extreme abundance of freedom failed, you have go extreme to break the ice, and thats what they did, so I dont know if it was lsd or what, but something created a movement that allows us to be a lot better future. Maybe it was the music, the war, but LSD was everywhere..
     
  12. wutthe4k

    wutthe4k Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    technically the 60's movement did fail because the mission was world peace...a shitload of people ended up heroin addicts and the generation ended badly
     
  13. burnabowl

    burnabowl Dancing Tree

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    it's kind of interesting because pioneers of all sorts faced many challenges and had many persecutions and hardships including hippies. they were like ancient israel, haha j/k

    The 'nam war and draft fuelled a fire that was already there. There's a lot of variables and different causes but I think the one parent cause of the explosive 60's counterculture was the generation gap due to WWII. All teenagers want to rebel but with the boomers they had such great numbers and there were no mediating age groups between them and the WWII generation.

    lsd was a perfect drug for that setting and idk if it was god's idea or just good timing that guys like Ken Kesey and Owsley Stanley spread acid everywhere at that time

    I actually read somewhere that a Hopi tribe put a spell on the white nation. A certian generation would be born among them into which the Hopi's murdered spirits would reincarnate. That generation would show great defiance to the customs and values of the white nation and even wear feathers and flowers like the Hopis , and be cast with a name similar to Hopi (hippie) :p
     
  14. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    Well even if none of you shall be ones to craft the coming future, I enjoy doing so myself
     
  15. Kizen

    Kizen Member

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    and what shall you do first?
     

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