60mg 2c-e

attempted +1, especially for "psyentist"

 

I think Shulgin's recommended dosages are very appropriate for FIRST-TIME dosing. After that, it depends on individual preference. His recommended dosages are definitely a good place to start though, imo.

 

No way! Those things are friggin yummy, the peanut ones are the best! I always mean to pick some up but I forget... until I've already got the 2c-gut rot...

 

if i had started with 25 mg 2ce...i think i would have been scared off

 

this post gave me déjà vu...

 

Yeah that's what I'm saying dude. He recommended 25mg as a max dose. Like I said, his dosage scale is a good way to base your initial experience on, just to test sensitivity and/or preference. After that, dose to your heart's desire, but also listen to the recommendations/suggestions of your friends who KNOW you can handle and would enjoy a stronger dose:tongue:

 

I think shulgin was more interested in the lower threshold of these things, the minimal safe and clinically valuable dosages, rather than the no-holds-barred immersive limits of experience. I like using his doses to influence my first time dose, but after that my sense of adventure and investigation compel me to seek the upper (safe) limits. More than that, it is my experience with high doses that compels me, for every single time I take that great and terrible choice I realize there is a whole other world to psychedelics found in the airy heights of irresponsible dosing.

 

so when i asked before - what's the line where a low dose becomes a high one, i was actually asking. because i feel like 24 or 25 mg would be one

 

i just don't think i'll take the plunge with 2ce. i have a seed of suspicion in my mind that 2ce is too rough on my body. i don't think that will let me have such a great time on 60 mg.

i'll be "irresponsible" the next time i get a decent amount of L

 

Well writer I will say this... Pork has had a salvia breakthrough, to my knowledge you have not. 50 mgs 2ct7 sound pretty similiar in intensity to 50 mgs 2ce which is a step and a half lower in intensity than salvia. I know you are experienced with dpt but maybe you should check out a salvia breakthrough before making claims that porkstock hasn't pushed the boundaries...

 

It's totally subjective man. A 24/25mg dose of 2ce may or may not give you a similar experience to what we get on 50-60mg. My cousin was scared out of his mind on 25mg, and even thought he visited Hell and that I was Satan. Of course, that was only his second experience with psychedelics.....ever. However, the fact that you responded so well to 19mg and whatnot.....that makes me feel that you would respond equally as well to dosing a bit high, like at least 35mg.

Like I said though......proper dosage is very subjective; especially with 2ce. It definitely has that kind of "dark" and "strange" feel that can easily tip a person over the edge of a "good" and "bad" trip. It's a strange thing when a person doses 50mg and has to tripsit a person who dosed 25mg, but I've experienced it first-hand. That being said, I still think you could handle dosing a bit higher, since you obviously have a very strong mind and are quite used to psychedelic experiences.

Either way, I'm excited to see how you feel about your upcoming 24-25mg dose

 

Again....that's very subjective. For some people, a salvia breakthrough would be more intense than a 50-60mg 2ce dose, while other would lose their mind on a 50-60mg 2ce dose and handle a salvia breakthrough just fine. It varies, from mind to mind.

 

That'll work too

I wish I had enough L to be "irresponsible". It would happen as soon as I received said L and I wouldn't have any more doses for future irresponsibility, but that one experience would be taken as deep as possible.

Damn....triple-post. My bad:tongue:

 

you win my thread

 

that won't be for awhile. and who knows, maybe i'll throw 6 or 8 mg ontop of it

who wins? me?!

 

^^^I think he was referring to prone, he must have gone to the store and bought some fucking Ginger chews...

 

hahahahaha Do those things really work?

 

the taste did not agree with me the time I tested them but I did not have much nausea so its very possible they curb nausea to a degree.

 

I went from 20mg my first time to 55mg. Man up!

If you are so scared how "rough" it might be on your body at 60 mg or even 30 mg, I really don't get why you take 2c-e at all? It just seems you aren't really experiencing all this drug has to offer, so you should just give it up and move to another one that you handle better physically but still get all the effects. Or try a low dose combo with 2c-i or something.

 

for personal work i agree low to moderate doses win over high doses. I was not looking for personal work with this trip, I was looking for full strength psychedelia, which is a very different experience. You get very different things out of 4 hits vs 400 hits, and im trying to communicate this to people who have never done 400 and think it's just a waste since 4 gives them so much goodness. I absolutely agree 4 will give you oodles of goodness, but out of curiosity, take 400 and see what you find. this is my stance.

and TNS won the thread with his triple post combo

man all this is just making me salivate for a handful of lucy :drool5: