9/11 truth now!

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Fiend4Green, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Why would the truth on 9/11 be any different than the truth on 2/13?
     
  2. Michael Phelps

    Michael Phelps Am I being detained?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CHq6JocvDM"]YouTube- 911 Explosive laden van 2-3 arrests
    It could of just been paranoid FBI agents making a big deal over nothing. Or maybe it never happened. Just because someone said it doesn't make it true.
     
  3. Michael Phelps

    Michael Phelps Am I being detained?

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    http://www.debunking911.com/fires.htm
    ...there were difficulties with occupancy that Larry Silverstein wasn’t getting a full return on his investment from the ordinary use of the buildings, because a tremendous large numbers of offices were unoccupied. Whole floors and sections of the buildings.
    http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC STUDY 8-06 w clarif as of 9-8-06 .pdf
    On this page which is linked from
    http://www.america.gov/st/webchat-english/2009/May/20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245.html both reputable looking sources.
    it is claimed that the structural members that would be necessary to set explosives would not be accessible. These columns would be easily accessible from inside the elevator shafts. It also claims the only window of opportunity to set charges was after the planes hit.
    It has taken a scientific approach but not criminal science.
    I am having a hard time trying to find a reputable source of information which disproves the security shutdowns in the WTC building in the weeks before the terror attacks, but the sites I am finding find are all "unsubmittable".
    Believe me, I want to see this.
     
  4. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_power_down.html

    again, you're believing something that has almost nothing to back it up then say you can't find anything to disprove it. How about you try to find something to prove it instead. Sorry, power down never happened at least in the way Forbes describes it, he says floor 50 and up, he was on the 90th floor though and the other thousands of people who in theory should've experienced this have yet to come forward, not to mention proof the towers were still operating that day.

    Jeez, stop being thick.
     
  5. Michael Phelps

    Michael Phelps Am I being detained?

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    Yes that's the type of article I was looking for. There are of course tons of sites that say Marvin Bush was head of security and they had shutdowns but I wanted something reputable to addressed that topic.
    But regardless of when it would have happened the official theory ridicules the idea of accessibility to the load bearing structure.
    With the amount of vacant space (a tremendous large numbers of offices) walls and plumbing pipes actually could have been moved even with the building fully operational..
     
  6. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Most of the load bearing structure is in the walls, no service tunnels or anything, you can't get to it without knocking down walls. You also can't lay explosive charges to take down a 110 story building in 18 hours, this takes weeks of laying, and hiding demolition wire.
     
  7. Michael Phelps

    Michael Phelps Am I being detained?

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  8. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    You still have no proof there was explosives aside from the fact you want to believe it and somehow an army of engineers rigged both building to fall in less then a day. Jesus they must've pumped those men full of speed.
     
  9. Michael Phelps

    Michael Phelps Am I being detained?

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    I don't think bombs could have been planted in less than a day. They could have been planted over a course of a few weeks.
    Any proof is not submittable because I am now only referring to websites that support opposition to my point of view so you can look at them.
    http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC STUDY 8-06 w clarif as of 9-8-06 .pdf clearly states that they don't care
    Who owned the buildings
    Who insured the buildings
    What type of documents were destroyed in the buildings
    Motives for destroying the buildings

    Their logic is that is physically impossible for the charges to be set, but it just is possible. Far fetched but possible.
     
  10. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    We usually hear of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. This "far fetched" truth seems to have no redeeming purpose.
     
  11. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Far fetched half truths don't do any good for society
     
  12. BigCityHillbilly

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    I seem to recall that at least two (2) scientific articles have already been posted on this thread, which contain substantial evidence for the controlled demolition hypothesis.

    Israel is among the world's foremost leaders in the field of explosive military technology.

    Israel could have sent in a team of professional demolition experts, and they could have been posing as a building maintenance/telecommunications team.

    They would have been were acting with fullest blessings from the highest government officials in the USA.

    How much time would it have taken for a team of professional demolition experts to "wire" the WTC for demolition ? Time wasn't really such an important factor, when you consider that the event was on the drawing board since the 1970s.

    Israel had many years to plan it out.
     
  13. Michael Phelps

    Michael Phelps Am I being detained?

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    The molten metal does not exist either because you do not want it to. In
    http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC STUDY 8-06 w clarif as of 9-8-06 .pdf
    It is stated "To a man they do not recall encountering molten structural steel beams, nor do they recall seeing any evidence of pre-cutting or explosive severance of beams at any point during debris removal activities."
    What makes "a man" so honorable? Because he says what you and the CIA want. While NYDP and NYFD members who give their ranks and engine numbers are

    "just like the general public, some of them will be drawn into the conspiracy because it excited them, they want to believe it. Also, many just want attention since basically since day 2 conspiracy theories have been running all over the place."(post 343)

    But "a man"? He's alright.
     
  14. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Will you do the country a favor and go die already.
     
  15. BigCityHillbilly

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    Consider the motive as seen from the Arabic standpoint:

    A) The Arabs were eager to bring about an invasion of their homeland(s) by a foreign occupation army.

    B) The Arabs had no way of predicting what the US-Zionist response to such an event would be, even though the USA and Israel were both in the habit of bombing them for many years prior to the strange event.

    C) The Arabs wanted Israel to seize control of the Iraqi oil fields.

    D) The Arabs were simply trying to create an excuse for their own mass extermination.

    E) The Arabs knew in advance that aluminum would be much much stronger than steel !

    F) The Arabs knew that by carrying out such an attack, that they would only be inviting death and destruction upon themselves, but they went ahead and they did it anyway because they just "love it" whenever they're on the receiving end of bombs and incendiary devices.

    G) The Arabs have a secret network of underground caves somewhere in "tora bora" where they fabricate those indestructible passports. It helps them to incriminate themselves, but that's what they want. They enjoy getting bombed and they enjoy watching their friends and relatives die.

    It makes really good sense ... doesn't it ?
     
  16. thedope

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    Clears everything right up.
     
  17. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    I see, Al Queda speaks for all Arabs, alright I shall now kill every Arab I see in that case.
     
  18. BigCityHillbilly

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    "War" in the modern-day sense of the word refers to the mass murder of women and children and others who are mostly unable to defend themselves.

    When innocent people are squatting on choice real estate, the innocents must be gotten rid of, and that's where "AQ" steps in.

    "AQ" is a convenient myth that was created by the lie-spewing government and newsmedia. "AQ" is simply a pretext for carrying out deadly bombing missions against mostly unarmed civilian populations. Everything that "AQ" was ever alleged to have done, has always resulted in the mass murder of innocent Arabs and Moslems. "AQ" is simply a treasonous organization when you look at it from the strict vantage point of Arab and Moslem interests, and the same can be said for Hamas and Hezbollah and the rest of those other phony "straw man" organizations that were all put together so as to create a pretext for the mass murder of civilians and the destruction of their infrastructure(s).

    "AQ" is a fiction that only serves to advance the interests of the zionists, the militarists, the weapons manufacturers and the war-racketeers, and the rest of that monstrous criminal gang which exerts iron-fisted control in the government and in the newsmedia.

    To paraphrase that famous quotation by M. Bakunin (?) ... "If 'AQ' didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent it."
     
  19. BigCityHillbilly

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    Vicious hate speech.
     
  20. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    He was being sarcastic, he is pointing out how it is stupid to say that one organisation is responsible for the views and actions of an entire people.

    But i think you already understood the context.
     

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