9/11

I answered some of your questions I am not here to be questioned and answer everything you want. 2 way street buddy.

And you ask questions that are impossible to answer.

 

Which ones?

You said that it was later "believed" that the signal was not from the black box. How did you come to believe that it had come to be believed that it was not from the black box? And who came to later believe that, and why?

 

Either answer what I have asked you, or be gone

 

So, you concede the point that investigators picked up a signal from one of the black boxes in the WTC debris. Good!

 

Great way to have a conversation...one sided. You refuse to answer because you are a fool.

 

You began this discussion by stating that the black box was not recovered. I pointed out to you that Nicholas DeMasi said that three of the four had been found, and then I asked you whether or not DeMasi later said he was mistaken. You didn’t answer. You simply said “This is again just another 9/11 truther report. None were found at WTC . . .”

So, you see that you did not answer. You simply invoked the “truther” stigma thing and repeated your statement.

Then I asked you about the signal coming from a black box in the WTC debris. You said that it was later believed that the signal did not come from a black box.

Then I told you that, in a 9/18/01 executive summary to New York Governor George Pataki, Edward Jacoby, Director of the New York State Emergency Management Office, said that investigators had identified the signal from one of the black boxes in the WTC debris. And I asked you if that was the "someone" whom you say heard something. You didn't answer. I also asked you how it came to be "believed" that what was reported to have been a signal from one of the black boxes was not from the black box? Again you didn’t answer.

 

To keep going back and forth about things that have been disproven is a waste of time. I answered some questions you posed, you fail to answer 1 i posed. You want to make this an "inside job" so live with your tin foil hat on and go about life being blind.

 

What has been disproven, Vance?

And which questions of mine have you answered? I asked you this before, and you haven't even answered that.
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So, to recap:

You said that it was later believed that the signal did not come from a black box.

I pointed out that, in a 9/18/01 executive summary to New York Governor George Pataki, Edward Jacoby, Director of the New York State Emergency Management Office, said that investigators had identified the signal from one of the black boxes in the WTC debris. So, how did it later come to be "believed" that what was reported to have been a signal from one of the black boxes was not from the black box? And who was it that later came to believe this?

 

It was disproven because it was a radio signal with the same frequence as the box.

 

Could you cite the source from which you got this information?

 

No, it's either time for you to answer my question or it's done. You are so stuck on a black box that was not found instead of focusing on the reality of what happened. Remember they do have the transmission from the cockpits before they were turned off.

 

I'm kind of fed up hearing about it, there have been far worse disasters around the same time and since

 

Well, you made the claim that no black box was found at Ground Zero. I produced testimony from someone who says that three of the four were found. I also provided a report from the Director of the New York Emergency Management Office to the Governor of New York stating that investigators picked up a signal from one of the black boxes in the WTC debris. In response, you said it had later come to be believed that the signal was not from a black box.

So, I asked you how it later came to be "believed" that what was reported to have been a signal from one of the black boxes was in fact not from the black box. I also asked you who it was that later came to believe this? Instead of answering, you claimed it was disproved because it was a radio signal with the same frequency as the box. When asked to cite the source of this claim of yours, you refused to do so, which leads me to believe that you simply made it up. I can think of no other reason for you to withhold the source of your claim.

 

Well, I don’t know about you, but when I’m positioned in such a way that what I’m hearing is something I’m fed up with, I change my position. Works every time. Myself, I always review the thread topic before clicking onto it in order to avoid being fed up. That works, too.

 

Yes and someone claimed to see a "rocket" hit the airplane that blew up near Long Island too. One persons statement upon other proof does not hold up. But hey it's ok to avoid what I have asked you. You can dwell in your black box world where there is no proof except for 1 man. Hell more people said they heard shots from the grassy knoll then found black boxes.

 

If you will not provide the source from which you came to understand that the black box signal picked up by investigators was disproved because it was a radio signal with the same frequency as the box, then I'll have to assume that you simply made it up.

And despite your assertion that proof of the black box boils down to one man's word, you're forgetting that the Director of the New York Emergency Management Office reported to the Governor of New York that investigators reported picking up the signal from one of the black boxes. These investigators included “14 personnel” of U.S. Army’s CECOM (Communications Electronics Command), in addition to FBI and USAR (Urban Search and Rescue), from whom “a ten-man team is using acoustic sensors and direction finders to locate the audio transmitters (pingers) on the recorders. The NTSB was involved, too, helping to set up six observation/camera points to help guide FDNY and USAR to the area emitting the signal.

I'll give you one last chance to disclose the source of your claim that the findings of these investigators was disproved because it was a radio signal from something else in the WTC debri emiting the same frequency.

 

Yeah it's like talking to a brick wall.

 

Yeah, and that brick wall has asked you to disclose the source of your claim that the findings of these investigators was disproved because it was a radio signal from something else in the WTC debri emitting the same frequency. You know, the longer you don't answer, the more it looks like you just made it up?

 

I really don't care since you are so hung up on one thing and fail to answer anything I have asked you.

 

The one thing I'm hung up on is your claim that the findings of these investigators was disproved because it was a radio signal from something else in the WTC debri emitting the same frequency. That's why I've been asking you to cite the source from where you came to understand this to be a fact. You just made it up, didn't you?