A basis for the PSYCHEDELIC experience

porkstock41 · Dec 3, 2008

bill i just want to point out that our brains do this all the time; "fill in the blanks." just like with those images you posted, we constantly see things that aren't really there, we infer them to be. for example cathode ray tvs (old ones) only illuminate bars of light, with bars of darkness between them. our eyes and brain fill in the gaps.

each eye has a blind spot, but we never see it cuz again our eyes and brain fill in the missing information.

for all we know the world doesn't truly exist as we perceive it. our senses are imperfect. i think the world is definitely not as we see it everyday.

pedaltopedal · Dec 3, 2008

porkstock41 said:

for all we know the world doesn't truly exist as we perceive it. our senses are imperfect. i think the world is definitely not as we see it everyday.
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Most definitely.

We are limited to what we are able to perceive, and unfortunately, there is much more information out there available that we are not able to intercept and interact with. For example, we only see a small portion of electromagnetic waves as visible light, our hearing is limited to a specific range, etc. Who knows what else is out there that we have no way of knowing about?

We only absorb a small amount of the information around us, and our brains fill in the rest... or as much of the "rest" as needed for our understanding/survival.

Libertine · Dec 3, 2008

Bill, I like this. It has given me something more to chew on. IF there is one thing I enjoy as much as a hot naked horny chick stimulating my cock, it is a brilliant, well-thought out theory stimulating my mind.:cheers2:

StonerBill said:

In the search for ways to relate the processes of the psychedelic mind to the sober one, a philosopher or psychologist may find themselves unable to reconcile the intricacy and profundity of the psychedelic experience in terms of something that is a mere molecule's difference away from sobriety.

However in the following picture, some of you may experience a phenomenon that (if you do experience it) you have most likely considered before. In the first diagram, three circles outline a triangle. There is no actual triangle, only an implied triangle, but nonetheless, a visual experience can be had of the egdes of the implied triangle, either as a feint difference in shade, or perhaps something more defined as that. Many illusions of this type are possible, and undergraduate psych courses are fruitful with such examples. However, the direct connexion has not often been made to psychedelics. To those that trully experience the triangle, even if they have to concentrate, I can assure you that you are experiencing a quality, an identity, out of sensual void (pure white in this case). these 'identities' might be what socrates would call a form - an almost perfect one in fact, for we have filled the white space with the most perfect implication we percieve (that which is most ready).

If this process of percieving in the world qualities that are not actually present, was informed not onlny by distinct cues (such as the wedges in the circles below) but by freeflowing imaginative impulses, then a miriad of sensations may be mixed and folded based on almost any concievable notion (the diverse psychedelic animation of the world), appled over and over (ie, a fractal), contained in sensual relams that they have not before (synthasasia like experiences).

if only the greeks had experienced LSD< and their notion of forms would have led them to perhaps appreciate the effects of psychedelics more than most philosophers now.
this is not an inspection of the whole psychedelic experience, but more specifically the visual one. If it came to, we may be able to generalise many concepts relating to senses as relating to other senses as well and thus generalise this to being relevant to the whole psychedelic experience.

what i said of the triangle applies also for the circle.

the important thing to take from this is that even in a sober state, you can experience your mind sensating a form that is not implied by the picture itself, but instead by some deduction of our mind. This deduction may be influenced by any notion, but in our sober state, only solid, certain, defined notions form such phantasm. For example, we only see the sphere above because of the pricise curves lining the bottom of the otherwise triangular figures. In a psychedelic state, this 'defined notion' principle may not apply...
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orison319 said:

here guys I should of put this in here.. or somewheres .. 1/2floz of liquid is almost gone from last weekend...pretty stuip really.. Honestly Im relaly getting shreading visuals to the point of completle lose of vision. /bouncing colors and rain dow opatters..

Im not. gona nbug you gut=ys with other details really so much has been said on cid, I dont have the patients to go spiritual with convos really..

Ive been seeing these spaghitteo looking floats.. rings, long traiks

major spine and back pain.. from lasc of sleep .. see you all latrer.
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I honestly dont remember writing that..
I told you it wasnt real.

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