A Conclusion On What Acid Does To Your Mind

^agreed, i refuse to sit back and do nothing. While I'm just one grain of sand in a massive beach, and even though I'm not significant enough to be recognized on a large scale...im still going to do what i can can to evoke change at a local level, and if that's speaking my voice loud and proud than im going to do it. I can't just accept the ignorance of others and shrug it off, because it's time for a change. I'm sick of the sickness on this planet. We need something big, something that's going to show people that the only thing seperating them from machines is an electrical socket. I don't think that makes me egotistical. I think it makes me conscious.

 

Hey now, lets not involve alcohol in this...some of the greatest thinkers ever to walk the Earth indulged in the pleasures of the drink. Booze is no different than any other drug, albeit psychedelics. I drink on the weekends yes...so what? I htink it's way orse when people sit around smoking pot. That's dumbing down. All my friends comafry themselves into zombies all day everyday, I drink once in a while and rant about my philosophy; so i guess i use it as a tool. A tool to loosen up, feel comfortable and have fun. Plus booze has been around just as long as any other drug, it can't really be compared to T.V. for numbing people down. The only reason alcohol is legal and marijuana isnt, is because it's so engrained into our establishment. Booze was used widely in our 'ancestors' age and it had been arond for so long before that. Pot is a relatively new thing for the colonized American. Give it some time and pot will be legal too. IMO.

 

agreed!

 

well i dont know if this post will fit in, i feel sick so it was diffuclt to read everyones posts, but it seems like everone is looking to deep into this ego boost thing that lsd gives. lsd can give you an ego boost without turning you into an egotisical fuck, i guess depends on the person and their tendencies. with everything in mind, perhaps a life of 'ingorance' really isnt so bad afterall. there is a price to pay no matter which path you take. the old saying -"ignorance is bliss"-

and while some of us may feel sorry for them, they may feel sorry for us.

 

well put!

i pray you feel better ASAP.

 

i just wanna say, i don't think lsd gives you an ego boost, at least thats not how it seems to me. instead, i think it temporarily removes your ego, which would mean you have no insecurities, and everything that comes with an ego. so if you have nothing to feel insecure about at all and your ego is gone, you will have an idea of what life is like outside your box. i know i haven't tripped as many times as a lot of you, but i think we shouldn't look down on anything, but up at everything, everything has something to teach you. every single person in the world has something to teach you, you should always listen to whoever is speaking, even when you already know, or dissagree, there will still be things you will learn. i also just wanna say, RELAYER, you are fucking awesome. so are alot of other people here, this is a VERY interesting thread. relayer you really have a way with words. i learned quite a bit today reading this thread, thank you everybody. oh yeah, i just wanted to say to myke and mara, i think your missunderstanding relayer, or maybe i'm missunderstanding you, but all she was doing is pointing out your ego's. everybody has one, she was just saying when you talk about your self in ANY way at all, its your ego talking, defending yourself in someway or another. its not that its a bad thing, its a completely natural thing from what i've learned. just try to leave it behind maybe? fuck it, i don't know, thats all we really can say anyway i think, i just don't know

 

That's exactly what I was saying iedoc, you are the only one to point it out :tongue:
btw Im not a girl, but thank you for the kynd words! I kind of look like a girl so the misunderstanding is quite understandable! haha
namaste

 

hahaha! no way! i totally thought you were a girl, shit! sorry

 

Nope, just girlish in my figure. Im too damn thin! :tongue:
It's all good friend, no worries!
namaste

 

Mental Ping-pong Wooooohooo Which Side Will Win??

 

i think this is a reasonable interpretation. i've noticed that my introspection with herb brings maturity. among the times i've smoked, the trippier times brought me the most progress

 

i agree with that, weed made me more mature i'd say, and opened up my mind. but tripping has gone far beyond opening my mind, its like opening my mind is an understatement, there is not limits now

 

Well, LSD gives me a massive ego boost. Not even in that it makes me feel superior. It just makes me feel more confident. It's subjective...that's what it does for me. I've said this to my friends and they say that it is something exclusive to my experience. So maybe it just happens to me, but when I fry i feel invincible.

 

the last heaps of time iv done acid, i have purpsosy worn very dressy goin out type clothes. clubbin sort of clothes, and i tell you it has done amazing things to me. just wearing those clothes on acid, compared to my usual whatever shit. i am now much more pre-occupied with my image. its sort of annoying i never used to give a shit. but it is good i am now more aware and want to look good.

but i think acid is best done in some good clothes. one day ill try a suite. haha. it does amazing things to your confidence.

 

in ta rest my ing

 

too the people arguing about making changes on earth.
I completely agree that change needs to happen but I don't think change will come about by 'changing' things. I do believe in McKenna's concept that the aim of existence is to complexify. "That wherever nature achieves complexity it then uses it as a platform to create more complexity". By that, what it seems to me is, television is not going out of style, alcoholism is not going out, nothing is going to leave. Because that would remove components which make our current situation of existence as complex as it is. There is not going to be a single component of current existence, on this level, on this point in time by which you will be able to grab hold of and 'reposition', 'change', it to another spot or just remove it entirely. The 'changes' are going to happen by the next step of complexification guiding everything into a better position. So TV is not going to go out, people are not going to 'wake up' and notice "all these shows suck and teach bad morals". What is going to happen is newer shows are going to come, better uses for the television screen are going to come, new styles are going to come. By this the modes of thinking in society are going to alter. If you wish to cause changes into society you need to start devising and bringing in the NEW styles, the new modes. Not attack existing ones in hopes of pushing them somewhere else. Thats why to me, I cannot agree with the notion of changing people, we are not going to CHANGE. We are going to bring in new, we are going to pull down the new metaphors for life, just because thats what we do. There is going to be no 'change' in the process from this point of view, theres just going to be finding newer and better. So it seems absurd to focus on changing things, all you have to do is focus on and partake in what is good.

 

Good points rygoody, I've been reading some McKenna lately myself and his "novelty" theory has a ring of truth to it. Some entity in the future does seem to be pulling us towards it....

 

excellent! great perspective!

 

i don't know, but i think a big part of lsd is setting your ego aside, not giving it a boost. i don't think when your on acid and you feel AWESOME and stuff that its your ego feeling that, i think its whats left after your ego is somewhat or completely gone. i could be totally wrong though, its just what i feel when i do acid. your ego wants to be better and above or whatever than anybody else. it wants to be separate and stand out, but when i do acid, i don't feel like that, i feel like there is no comparison between me and others, any time it starts getting super intense is when i have negative thoughts or thoughts concerning my ego, then its the snowball effect, which really sucks and is mentally hard to stop, even though its so easy to stop, just change your train of thought.

 

^i agree, LSD at certain doses causes ego death. But at lower doses it definitely boosts my ego much like alcohol or cocaine would. I know because i have experienced both aspects of tripping many times. Ego death doesnt occur at all doses. Sometimes i take enough to shatter perceptions and rock the foundations of my world. Other times i take a small recreational dose just to have a really great high, some good visuals and a supreme ego boost. Like i said, this is what lsd does to me. I know all about tripping for spiritual benefit and i know about tripping for sheer pleasure. LSD is maleable, it doesnt always have to be this crazy sacrament that challenges conformity. It can also be a nice, whimsical, pleasurable experience void of any deep mental and philisophical themes.