Abortion or Adoption?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by redyelruc, Dec 23, 2007.

  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Adoption.
     
  2. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    Not giving a kid enough love is about the most negative thing you could do. Avoid doing that and everything else would work itself out.
     
  3. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    You're right.

    Which is why I say "I doubt" and "I'd probably".

    Those are just my speculations. All I can do is speculate based on how well I know myself. I'm a rather emotional fellow, but I just cannot make myself see a fetus as something that's living... Hell, I don't even kill insects because I feel like I have no right to take a life away, to end an existence...

    But yet again, I don't see a fetus as something that's alive. That's just the way I am.
     
  4. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    That is horrible :(, people are so radical and change from one day to the other, you never know what to expect. It's sad and kinda scary too.
     
  5. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    I would keep my child. But I firmly believe in to each their own, and no judgement or control should be held over someone else's situation.
     
  6. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

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    i have so much fucking love to give i'd prolly end up suffocating them with love :D
     
  7. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    Yeah, she is now, penniless, back living at home in a tiny village with her parents where single mothers are looked upon as prostitutes.

    She's lucky in that she has a good group of friends. But we all live about 3 hours away. Still, in April when her son is 6 months old we are going to share a house together(about 5 of us) so she can get out of her village and has a support network. 4 of us had planned to do it anyway, now it'll just be a couple more.

    It'll be fucking great to be an 'uncle' again. I miss my 'real' family.
     
  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I can see if it's a case of rape or incest, but other than that I am strongly against abortion. Most women don't know that there are loving families willing to pay good money to adopt a child. I think it's quite sad how inhuman we have become that we look at abortion like it's some natural act, like going to the bathroom. It says a lot about our society.
     
  9. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

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    there are a fuckload of kids outside our country that need adopting
    people willing to adopt a child should look past the "i want a baby" idea and adopt children of other ages as well

    i agree with you on the natural take some people have on it
    it's not like going to the bathroom, and it does say alot about the society we live in
    but i don't think that too many people think that way
     
  10. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    It's the same thing here in DR, I've seen so many girls marry guys they absolutely know they dont love because of the social stigma. That usually ends up in a lot of fighting, the breaking up, getting back together, breaking up again, cheating and is sad when you see two people who are so unhappy together and it all reflects on their kids.

    That's nice of you guys all living with her and her kid, I'm sure she'll be a lot happier :)
     
  11. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    I don't think I've ever trivialised abortion in my life, but I don't think that the fact that there are people who will buy your baby says that much about our society either.
     
  12. Ms.Oh!

    Ms.Oh! Senior Member

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    abortion.. i dont think it is wrong morally.

    i would never be able to carry a kid for 9 months and give birth, then give it away.
     
  13. BraveSirRubin

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    I just really don't see why people make such a big deal out of abortions. I also do not see how it's even a social issue. You cannot justify anything as emotional as an abortion with any amount of logic.

    I don't give a shit if people have abortions or not... it's for them to decide. Abortions are not something I think about at all. Hell, if you read up a bit... abortions were never considered a big deal until the church suddenly decided to make it a big deal. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_abortion )... read up.

    People who have such "strong opinions" about abortion are just pretty much tools of the modern media.
     
  14. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

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    i wonder if it would possible for me to have six hundred sixty six abortions
    pavel, wanna help me try?
     
  15. Ms.Oh!

    Ms.Oh! Senior Member

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    WELL SPOKEN
     
  16. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

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    i don't agree. i think some of them are people who think logically and consider the fact that it is stopping a life...others are people being part of a politcal movement.
     
  17. BraveSirRubin

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    Gary, people are only considering this issue because the media and religon forces it so much on them... they wouldn't have even given abortion a second thoughts if they weren't exposed to all the blabber about it.

    ...and as I said... I cannot possibly see how you can correlate something like abortion with logic.

    Do you even have to ask?

    I'll bring the blindfold, handcuffs, and coathanger over... you better be ready for a long night. I think we can manage at least three if we get really into it ;)
     
  18. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

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    Why is it unreasonable to see abortion as stopping a life that has started? Its a fact, its logical. To see it as anything else is illogical, and a lie.

    Like I said, I am fine with it, but I can surely see why people don't like the idea of it at all.

    i am also fine with the death penalty when a person is proven guilty for certain, i guess i am not that liberal

    I'lll have a threesome, I'll do drugs, but I will not pretend that an abortion is not stopping a life, and that a fetus is not alive
     
  19. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    I'd get an abortion... there is no way in hell I'm gonna go through pregnancy and labor.
     
  20. BraveSirRubin

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    I can use the same logic to argue that it's not really "life" when the abortion takes place.

    Then we can go in circles, and post lots of pretty links with long scientific arguments by other people who have tried to use logic to justify their ideas.

    Then we'd get angry and emotional, and end up calling each other names because we'd both think that we're right.

    See where I'm going with this?

    It's impossible to justify such an emotional issue with logic. Which is why I avoid "logical" arguments about such things as abortion, religion, and other emotional issues like the bloody plague.
     
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