Abortion

You're missing the point. I'm a woman, it effects me more so than it will EVER affect a man. Not to mention, I have had this sort of experience already at my age, so don't be so quick to talk.

 

And what percentage goes unpaid?

 

Matters not. The thing is that if you owe child support, the court system won't leave you alone. Your bill gets bigger and bigger, you can forget about ever getting any tax returns returned, you can lose your drivers lisence, if they find you have assets or a job they can take your assets or actually toss you in jail for fraud if you haven't reported your job so they can attach your wages. And the amount of money they want is ridiculous. It's far cheaper to raise the kid yourself than to let someone else raise it and be billed for support. You and your current family may be starving and unable to pay your own bills, but the "supported" child will be living high on the hog if your wages are garnished...

 

There is a big difference between trying to instill fear and teaching realism. I view childbirth as a highly beautiful and spiritual happening - glorious even- but the biggest majority of people have not a clue, as it is hidden behind closed doors. Honesty and truth are the best teachers, not keeping things hidden. Things that are hidden are not things people tend to learn alot about, and lack of knowledge in some cases creates fear. The goal here is respect and understanding for very natural occurances...

 

You aren't a citizen until you're born. Hence the punishment for infanticide. That right there was a skewed statement intended to make abortion sound worse than it is.

A fetus:
Is not a citizen
Is unconcious
Has no knowledge or emotions
Has a huge effect on a woman's body(more if born)
Has a huge effect on the life of both parents(more if born)

 

Look, I've wasted enough time acknowledging you. You're a heartless and immoral bastard, I get it.

 

Child Support is a good thing, those deadbeats that don't pay child support should be imprisoned. We're all a bit of a burden on our parents from when we're born till we're 18, that's life, and I intend to face the bit of burden my kids will have on me in the future.

 

I feel the same.

I'm not looking for acknowledgement, bud, just for you to tell me why you disagree with my statement. I've told you what's wrong with yours, and you just blissfully ignore it.

 

Why just the US? How does abortion in the US differ from any other country, from a scientific and moral standpoint? You are absolutely correct in that the male should be held financially responsible. It obviously takes both parents to create a child, and whether they choose to keep the child or not, they are equally responsible for its creation.

Excellent idea. I would say this should occur every school year from this age on. Also teens that have had children that have had abortions should come and speak and explain how these decisions have changed their lives. The sex ed that is taught to todays children clearly doesn't hold a candle to the sexual language and behavior that they are being exposed to in movies and music. (Example, my friend and her 11 year old daughter were driving in their car one day and the 50 Cent song Candy Shop came on. Her 11 year old knew the song word for word.)

While scientifically true, I think that this almost borders irresponsible thinking. If a woman has unprotected sex and gets pregnant, and all an abortion to her is "removing a cluster of cells", I don't think there is enough moral guilt to keep her from using abortion as birth control. IMO, if she has the abortion because she is not ready for a child, she should feel tremendous guilt. Maybe that will keep her legs closed or remind her to use birth control until the time comes that she is ready to have a child.

 

I have an idea....alongside being circumscised, we should snip boys until they are ready to procreate. A vasectomy is reversable. Think of it as shutting off the faucet until ready

 

Sperm of men could be frozen and used for later impregnation. Still have to worry about STD's though. Abstinence is foolproof.

 

Okay, are you crazy? First off, circumcision should be up to the parents, I sure don't want my kid getting mutilated. Vasectomies are reversable but not 100%, a vasectomy, like an abortion or getting the tubes tied is proned to infection and irreversable damage, take that into account will you?

 

Hey, wow, I think she was being facetious! Like making funny sort of? But now I getcha. You got an attitude about what women do with their bodies and if ya don't like what they say ya call 'em nasty names. Ya wanna dictate anti abortion, but ya can't take the opposite. So, If they start handin' out vasectomies, I think you should be first in line... But in the meantime I think ya should abstain from sex altogether.

 

Oh, here come the stupid rants. I don't care what women do with their bodies, do I care if they get piercings, or do drugs, or have sex? No. Do I care about women being able to kill children, yes. Vasectomies are a choice, and as I stated it ain't a 100% proof operation if you think you might want it reversed. There's birth control out there MUCH better than abortion.

 

So what I was implying was that a woman can do whatever the hell she wants to with her body. And for that matter, all humans should be able do whatever the hell they choose.

 

You might be in luck! I am not having any kids so my bloodline will no longer concern you soon. Plus I'm a smoker and might not even last that much longer.

 

Why is the majority seldom ever right? What are you basing that on?

 

Hey dumbass, in ever country half the people are below average intellect. The other half are above average. Hence the use of the term average. Do you see how dumb this make you look? Maybe you should think a little more before you announce your opinions.

 

OK. So can you explain a little more about these few women that you know, who you consider to be clean?