Abortion

Discussion in 'Protest' started by MaximusXXX, Oct 26, 2006.

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  1. FreakerSoup

    FreakerSoup Stranger

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    Shirley's right.

    Keep in mind that if you're going to colonize the moon or venus or mars, the resources will have to come from Earth. The moon will need air, water, and nutrients, mars will need nutrients and probably water, and venus will need air, water, nutrients, and some system for keeping a colony of people in long-term (generational) stable orbit. Step back a second. Your fix for overpopulation is massive amounts of space flight which would fix nothing because everything would have to come from earth anyways, and you could never transport enough people to make a significant change in world population. Even if it were possible, it would be impractical. It's just a stupid idea thought up by someone desparate to keep expanding human population.

    But that's a different discussion.

    You STILL only addressed one point of mine, which was a reply to a point of yours. You believe abortion should be illegal, I believe it should be accessible, so your case would be better made by actually stating what is wrong with my points. See my post on why I wouldn't have cared if I was aborted, I'd like to hear from you.
     
  2. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    First off, you sound quite foolish going against what many nations such as the U.S. want to do, water and oxygen can be created don't forget, and it isn't impractical, you're just not smart enough to comprehend, nor am I for that matter, but you can't say it's wrong.

    As for your, " points ", as I've stated that's what the majority thinks and there's nothing I can say that will change your mind, and frankly I'm quite tired with peaceful negotiations, reason why I support Fascism, for you see in a Fascist state I wouldn't have to convince you of anything, you'd either be with me or dead ( perhaps locked up somewhere but that would mean the world population would just keep growing, for instead of killing unborn babies I do believe it's more reasonable to euthanize profound mentally handicap individuals, and enemies of the state )
     
  3. Airfern1313

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    I'm kinda in between on the abortion issue. I'm ok with it if it isnt late-term, or if its due to something like rape.
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    That again leaves the ball in the man's court to decide. I was advocating that a woman should have the right to petition the court to mandate a vasectomy for any male that creates a life but does not choose to be responsible for that life. Too often males look at procreation as notches on their gun belts, but accept no responsibility for their role in the creation of that life. I think most males would think twice before procreating if their future right to that act were held in jeopardy due to previous actions.
     
  5. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    After High School I don't understand why people think of pregnancy as a problem or a fear. It shouldn't be. If a person is afraid of having a child because they need more time to establish a good income, that's selfishness right there.
     
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    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I am not sure I follow you. Are you saying that after high school indiscriminate breeding should proceed without respect for the responsibility of the parents to raise children? Some poor people have historically raised valuable citizens, but they have also accepted responsibility for the children they create. Some rich people have succeeded in raising the scum of the earth, even though they could provide all the advantages of wealth.
     
  7. FreakerSoup

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    Ok...
    1. Wanna bet? No, you can't create oxygen. The only way to create oxygen is nuclear fission or fusion, and both are so ridiculously expensive as to render it not even an option. If you want to bring up these other nations' point, feel free, but just saying "oh, a lot of smart people think this" won't make you look like any less of an ass.

    2. You're an idiot. Your opinions are stupid, shortsighted, and unfounded. You should really do some actual factual research before you try to debate things that you don't know about.

    Peace out.

    *Edit - So yes, it is wrong, it is impractical, and I am smart enough to say that, and no, you're not smart enough to argue with me about it. And water can only be created by combining hydrogen and oxygen, which not only uses up oxygen, but where do we get our hydrogen from? It's always from water, either directly or indirectly.
     
  8. Sera Michele

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    What a wonderful pro-life argument. Why not make sure ALL pregnancies result in babies getting born into an oppressive political environment! All the more people to make miserable! We can just have them hanged once they've had a taste of life, right?
     
  9. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    No, if people are raised to believe in something they won't be a problem.
     
  10. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    You mean if people are raised to believe exactly like you would want there wont be a problem. You're the one who said "you'd either be with me or dead."
     
  11. Any Color You Like

    Any Color You Like Senior Member

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    Maximus what would you do if you were ruled by a fascist government whose opinions differ from yours?

    Especially if people like you continue to support it.
     
  12. salmon4me

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    Wrong the post that you replied to made no mention of convenience only desire.
    If my mother decided not to carry me to an eventual bith than yes that would be all right.
    It is not a woman's duty to do jack sht. They can do whatever they want. We have no preordained duty on earth. We can, and will do whatever the hell we want.
     
  13. salmon4me

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    It took two years because that's when the mother admitted it. the question og how much responsibility he would have had is mute (like the baby).
    And your last question would be even more from leftfield. "Your kid would have been two years old, how much child support had you paid?"..is that English? What the hell are you talking about? Are you OK?
     
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  15. salmon4me

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    You are the reason that every woman should not have a kid...what an ***.
     
  16. salmon4me

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    Some are too young to have a child. Some have been raped. Some have reasons that neither you or I will ever understand. Some are afraid that there kid will turn out like you. And NONE owe you any explanation for the decisions they make concerning their body.
     
  17. salmon4me

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    Good point. I hope he's not an American. Because American Nationalism knows no race. We are all imagrants here. We are American, and that's it.
     
  18. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    Why do peple need to be kept seperate? Why do they need to keep their own culture? If you feel that the preaching of peace and love is idiotic, how about you do us a favor and stop visiting this site. We believe in peace and love and wish to communicate with those who feel the same way. Go away.
     
  19. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    YUP!
     
  20. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    1. So if they are in your class then it's OK for them to keep their "Irish culture". However, if they are in a lower social class then no? Also it's not that hard to explain. You are part German so you like Germans. However, you are not part Chinese so screw them!

    2. You are already 4 different kinds of pie. What's the difference if it's 5 or 6 or 7?

    3. So Africa is poor and overpopulated because of a lack of controls on the # of births, right? Then why are you so concerned about abortion?
     
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