About to get some sherm!

^^^ You are a moron

 

how so? people on these forums always talk shit on people who do meth or PCP. but then when people talk about acid or shrooms everyone is always so positive and you have no negative posts. so I have 2 points.

1. let drug users be drug users and be dumb or whatever n do stupid shit n alter their brains cus they obviously don't wanna be a sober normal person they wanna get high n stuff.

2. Be against hard drugs or be for hard drugs.

 

First of all I will concede I've never done pcp but

I've done my fair share of ketamine and 4-me0-PCP (which is supposedly 70% the strength of PCP) and these drugs are vastly more addictive than LSD or mushrooms.

You can get just as spaced out on dissassociatives as you can on hallucinogens, whoever you talked to probably just had a small dose. Dude you can't even walk or talk if you do a big enough dose of ketamine. On 4 Meo PCP Ive walked in front of cars oblivious.

 

well yeah I know you get spaced out n shit. I mean yeah going outside on pcp is not so smart. but if you do it like sitting in your room i think you'd be fine as long as you don't over do it. and I meant it's not as pyschedelic as shrooms. like I know it makes everything weird n slow motion n shit but it's not like it alters your perceptions like acid. but yeah I agree with you about those drugs being addicting. as I don't do them but they are more of feel good high while acid/shrooms is more of a experience.

 

Yah also candykid has been doing some fairly gnarly drug use in the past and other stuff so some of us are concerned. I didnt mean to come off all hostile and your argument has been used by people who use say k and LSD for instance. I think some discretion and differentiation should be made regarding these drugs though. There has been some horror Stories with PCP as well but alot of sensationalized ones too.

 

What's up is a concern for the safety of Hipforum members and people in general. What's up is Harm Reduction ftw, every single time.

Those who know me know that i am a-okay with PCP, shooting drugs, dissociatives, you name it, i'm the Libertarian saying you as a rational adult have the human right to put what you want in your body . . . but when i read these reports about getting incredibly "fucked up" then DRIVING AROUND town i'm not going to STFU. Ever.

How many of your family and friends have died, have burned to DEATH trapped in a car due to the influence of alcohol/drugs on themselves or the people who hit them? Is it zero (i'm not counting anymore but it is over 12 for me)? Really? Then you're a fucking liar or a child. Just give it time and you will understand my pain and anger. . . .

Sure shit happens when people alter their consciousness. That's why it's a good idea NOT to drive, not to play with knives or fire, not to wrestle on the balcony, not to go to a bar and seduce a stranger, not to operate the Large Hadron Collider or other heavy machinery and to use a sober sitter when GOING DEEP, every single time.

As a thinking, Libertarian, person, when i choose to radically alter my consciousness i stay home, i don't drive, i don't dose in the bathtub, i don't start a new round of kitchen chemistry.

Sorry, i want people to NOT be like me with the deaths and to BE like me with the practices. i will consume more psychedelics to work on this bloated ego.

 

Could you please cite the references to these scientific facts about marijuana? I am very curious to read the studies as are a lot of people here, so please post a link or reference.

My personal choices and recommendations regarding drugs are based on harm and risk, unlike the laws restricting them.
LSD and Mushrooms are infinitely safer physiologically then PCP. LSD is actually one of if not the safest substance you can take that produces psychedelic effects. Research it. It's safer than aspirin. Same with mushrooms. Again your assertions about the psychological dangers are grossly incorrect. The actual incidence of long term psychological damage from LSD is less than 1% of known users, based on 67 years of evidence and multiple millions of people who have taken it. Same holds true for mushrooms whose use pre-dates written history.

Again could you please provide references to this case. Such a horrible thing is certainly documented somewhere and if you read it then you can provide a link to the documentation. If not then it falls into the category of urban myth and as such holds no merit as believable.

You have obviously never done either PCP or LSD if that is your contention.

I on the other hand first tried PCP at the age of 14. Almost OD'ed from it.

Then at about 16 became involved with individuals who had a regular source and I was essentially dealing PCP. That continued for around two years. All forms, clean white powder, wet beige gunk, and smoked "wet" or "shermans". I estimate I probably did PCP in one form or another approximately 20-30 times. Thank God I didn't die from it. The last time I did it was three hits off a "duster" and was completely fucked-up , and not in a good way, for over 72 hours.
You can imagine that during that course of time that I did see a lot of PCP "addicts" and personally witnessed first hand the devastation that it reeks on a persons life and mentality.
One of the most memorable and sad was a person I knew back than named Jimmy Ingram. He was a heavyweight boxer who was working his way up the ladder towards earning the championship belt. He got "hooked" on PCP and began to lose ground in the ring. It got to the point that he could hardly hold a conversation any longer. My guess is it may have been a combination of blows to the head and PCP, but I saw the vast and rapid downward spiral in his cognitive abilities over a six month period when his PCP use became an almost daily occurrence. The week before he was scheduled to fight in Vegas, he beat his girlfriend and mother of his daughter to death while high on PCP because she did not get a beer fast enough. I can still vividly remember answering my door to see him standing there covered in blood and barely coherent. Don't know why he came to me. I asked what happened, and he only muttered "I hit her" and turned and ran. I ran down to his apt. to find that police were just arriving. I wish I could get the image of her laying there, head caved in, from my mind but it is still there.
Sadly the 18 month old girl saw it happen, although upon testing she was found to have irreversible brain damage due to exposure to PCP when they were smoking it in her presence. This happened in 1978.
They found him three weeks later and he went to prison for murder. Sad because he was certainly a major contender for world champ.
My last use of PCP was about 3 months prior to this.

So please don't be so ignorant as to spout bullshit that you obviously know nothing whatsoever about, as there are those of us here that do know what we are talking about.

(Wow, good thing I went to the store and picked up another bag of Purina Troll Chow, otherwise I would not have been able to post such a lengthy reply)

 

If you don't do them, then HOW IN THE FUCK COULD YOU POSSIBLY HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!:smilielol5:
Asshole.

 

..:seeya:

 

Fucking LOL!

i think there are a number of posters who enjoy that particular fare . . .

 

Funny (not ha ha) how that stuff never really goes away . . . the years pass and the open wound heals over into thick scar tissue . . . life goes on . . . but still like an open wound, it is there to probe, press and torture . . .sometimes alcohol and drugs (the shitty kind) can help to temporarily numb the pain or make us feel more distant. The decades pass and still we look back . . . knowing all we can do is try to make sure it NEVER happens again, especially to those we care about, . . . but also knowing deep within our saddened souls, . . . that it is hard for young people to hear the message, . . . that he he, . . . youth is wasted on the young . . .

 

To jump on the anti-PCP bandwagon, here's a little story you might not have heard:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lurch

Yikes.

 

I'm thinking that he might be referring to this, but I am almost CERTAIN that steroids played a role in this. Shrooms + roid rage =

http://www.sodahead.com/united-stat...ed-by-the-devil-loony-tunes/question-1039623/

 

my dad told me how one time smoked a joint dipped in pcp and he didnt know and that he was throwing up white foam and the roof of his appartment was spinning in circles for 24 hours he couldnt move of his bed
sounds good to me not lol

 

Ive tried pcp years ago & i couldnt move on it. I didnt really like the feeling & Id never do it again. It def fries your brain!

 

OP hasn't been on HF since 7/11. Anyone know what happened to candykid?