Ok Old brother... Ill move it to 'sanitation' Those guys know how to use a mop. So many say .. religion preserved reason during the dark ages. or.. they saved knowledge that would have been lost. garbage.. the dark ages were a 'product' of religion. With just a modecum of reason.. there would have been no dark ages Reason produces horrors such as H Bombs and nerve gas.. all NEW It NEVER produces general ignorance. Religion and politics does that. Occam
I didn't say that you don't make interesting points and I wouldn’t mind discussing them with you. It’s just that you’re making them in the wrong forum. OWB
I'd try reading up on your history - that is simple BS. The 'Dark Ages' followed the collapse of the Roman Empire, and were more to do with the invasions of western europe by non-religious people's such as the Angles, the Saxons and the Danes.
Bill Been reading history for 4 decades . How do you think i came this conclusion? Maybe you thought i was reciting dogma? The dogma of human ignorance and stupidity.. thats a new one lol Occam
Bill SO it was the Angles Saxons and danes that resulted in.......... "The proposition that the sun is in the center of the world and immovable from its place is absurd, philosophically false, and formally heretical; because it is expressly contrary to Holy Scriptures" [Pope Urban VIII] The council of Nicaea stunted human 'western' intellectual growth for a thousand years. With lies. More lies and damned lying bastards using those lies. Good one constantine. Occam
PS. the angles saxons and danes where NOT non-religious. And to suggest they were the cause of western europes' fall from notice for 1000 years is a load of bushwah. Europe embraced ignorance.. And thus. nothing happened. Occam
Im gettin scared now... as a Christian dood trying to make sense of all this... starting to see the one-ness in all and the need for things to change ... like ... what happens when we die? Is there really Judgment or is this a parable explaining trying to define what happens if we don't fit a mold of willingness to love!? or like What the hell man? Relayer, what say you friend...? I know your a pretty open cat... UGH... -> X, i think I PM-ED you on this topic plz hollah when u get a chance... Thanks.
Nikalaus LOL My name brother... I am Nikolas. Dont be scared. be joyfull. There is nothing to fear. I am not a christian. Yet MANY have said ' are you a christian' ? Why? Cause i act like one. You say you are 'trying to make sense of all of this' What happens when we die... Well . I could say ' what was it like for you before you were born'. Thats death. But i could be totally wrong.. lol Judgment? is a load of crud. And so is hell. These things were invented by religion and warped human minds. Power plays to control. GOD has nothing to do with them. Existing is actually very simple. Eat well, get some exercise. Dont drink to excess. Be nice to other people.. Thats about it. Occam
Mine too that's why I sport the Alias, Mine is spelled Nicholas We are having a Nick convention MOO HOO HAHAHAHA!
Uhmm ... I'd really like to believe this is true. I do have some reason to believe hell is the "lower self" as in it's already within us. Jesus Said heaven is within us and all around us. Why coudnt it be the same concept for hell... If that's the case ... I SURE AS SHIT hope that some parables i still don't understand might point to potential re-incarnation, cause there is no way the majority of people can beat the lower self ... aka "the ego" in one lifetime.
Hey NICKY...hehehehe I am Nicholas too..[and i came to live with 'nicky' why fight it] Your parents east european or russian.. that where my name is from.. My father was a great royalist from kiev.. Why a ukranian would be a russian royalist is beyond me.. but thats what parents are all about. DUH. . My dad is a straight up anglo orthodox twit with the common sense of a potato. I would have named myself Joachim..love that name. THE CZAR. hehe and a leo too... lol Occam
scratho rock logic or water logic? I mean if your giving aristotle a blowjob then say 'go aristotle' [ the god of rock logic] I much prefer winnie the pooh.. his friend piglet was a revelation to me. That a smal swine could be e better man than all the US presidents put together.. well thats something. But will he end up being just a patsy. like L H oswald. Occam
I see, Razorofoccam, that you have converted to Christianity! It's either that or as you say; you SHOULD be on the under 70 IQ forum.
I like christians. Some really nice people i know are driven by the creed. What i dont like is evangelists. Those that would burn me. They come to my doorstep and try to sell jesus. [I'm inclined to kill them on the spot but i might go to goal if i act without a plan.. Oh yeh the plan is.. they wished to undermine my status as a minority, a minority of quite a few who would like to shoot the fuckers through the door before they even start talking. These people Are INSULTING me by showing up on my stoop at all .. what.. they have truth? They have something im too stupid to find...?? LOL These EVANGELSIT CHRISTIANS are the dung of society. the scavengers for the weakest of us.. the trawlers of despair.] [nice rant ehh?] Cause i WILL NOT accept jesus as my savior. I have only one savior, my neocortex. DO you wish to burn me? Occam Ps. i failed to get into mensa by 1 IQ point..[or so theysaid, which means i topped at 159] i had consumed 1 1/2 bottles of vodka when i took the test..lol... lucky.. imagine the spam mail id get. Only a drunken fuk like me would be stupid enough to even want to be in mensa. [ whew .. 1 point saved me from 'genius spam mail' woot] When i recovered at 3pm the day after i was back to 180 so no loss hohum... God help me, religion is so boring. Luckily god has nothing to say about religion Or even beter. religion has nothing to say about god; Yep ..that sounds right Wow i impress myself with such eloquent prose.. you should post more so i can practice