After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

gun grabbers be like

If your grilled cheese got burned lets ban stoves.

And canola oil. Its basically the pistol grip assault semi automatic version of cooking oil

Nobody really needs canola oil

 

Yeap.

You hit the nail on the head.

The second amendment aint about hunting.

We didnt fight British deer in the Revolution.

 

Hmmm . . . how much faster can you shoot with a pistol grip?

 

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Good video

Common sense gun control debunked.

Gun ignorant people dont have common sense about guns. Duh. Thats why there is no such thing as common sense gun laws.

Basically, wooden guns are ok to have, black guns are scary and should be illegal because no one needs them. Small bullets are ok. Big bullets should be illegal. Even though the wooden guns shoot the big bullets. And the scary black guns shoot the little bullets.

 

This website is awesome for ballistics information.

This guy is super well researched.

Here is the write up on .223 the round that AR15 most commonly shoots. (Also known as 5.56)

.223 Remington

 

Pff AR15. I shot one of them in Texas and was not impressed, I much prefered the AK47.
But I'm a scope kinda person, I'm into one shot, they stay down. Not semi auto or anything. Just skilled sharp shooter.

 

That is incorrect. Pistol grips are entirely harmless.

That is incorrect as well. Pistol grips do not modify gun into types of weapons that are illegal or grandfathered in at great expense to own.

Pistol grips do not increase the rate of fire of a gun in any way.

People could provide a good reason to justify a ban on full auto weapons. They cannot provide a good reason for banning pistol grips.

Adding a pistol grip to a gun does not make it any less useful for hunting or any more useful for warfare.

None really.

I encourage all gun control advocates to continue focusing solely on pistol grips. Every time the gun control movement exhausts themselves in a fruitless fight over pistol grips, they don't pass any other gun control legislation.

The only people who are pretending that pistol grips are something that they are not are the gun control advocates.

Why they do so is a mystery to me. But I find it mighty convenient every time they exhaust themselves in a losing battle over pistol grips and end up failing to achieve anything at all.

I believe that one day the NRA will erect a statue in honor of all the gun control people who sabotaged their own movement by expending all of their energy on a pointless losing issue.

The really odd thing is, I can point out how the gun control movement is undermining themselves this way, and they just keep on undermining themselves anyway.

 

AK 47 is a type of rifle that shoots 7.62 or .308 caliber munition. AR15s are also available in the same caliber.

 

Pistol grips mostly make people mad because in addition to the utility they are a visual feature that screams not for hunting and whoever owns one is a gun nut they dont like. Its identity politics is all it is.

 

Fast enough for you to want it obviously. I see we are trying to muddy the waters with a difference between a "grip" and a "bump stock".

 

Why are you asking me? I haven't said a word about AR 15s. Maybe you're confused. Was this one of those questions where you already have an answer? If so, cut the foreplay and enlighten us.

 

AR15s kill a single digit percent as many people as hundguns. Possibly less than 1% as many.

No good reason AR15s or 30 round mags need banned.

AR15 is just the trend of the day since thats what was used in the last shooting.

People that dont like Trump want to make a big stink about it because they can.

 

AR15 haiku

My AR15
It makes no sense to ban you
Leftists like to cry

 

???? There are more people that believe we are inhabited by shape shifting alien reptiles by a factor of 3. There are twice as many members of the AMC movie club. The terrorist nra membership is 1% of the population. How would you define fringe? Would it help if I looked up what fringe means for you?

 

Why are you bringing up bump stocks? You're obviously trying to muddy the waters with something not being talked about.

Also, I've never said that I want an AR-15 because they're fast. In fact, I've never said that I wanted one. You just thought that bringing up bump stocks and making shit up about me would draw attention away from the question I asked you. It didn't.

So, how much faster can you shoot with a pistol grip?

 

Why anyone wants any particular type of firearm, with whatever modification they would like, as long as it's a legal modification, isn't any of your nor anybody else's business. And as a rule, I'm not willing to give up a single right granted to me by law unless there's a clear benefit to doing so. So far no clear benefit has been shown, only that in some people's opinion, certain types of firearms and or modifications are unnecessary and could be regulated out of availability. I'm not giving up any of my rights because of a completely uninterested in the field of firearms persons opinion. Show me clearly how they're hazardous, like driving intoxicated, or open fires during dry season, and I'll consider it. But citing the few times they're used illegally by irresponsible persons as compared to the vast majority of responsibly kept firearms isn't going to get you anywhere. With me or the lawmakers. And that stance doesn't make us advocates of mass shootings at schools, gun nuts, fringe cult members or any of the other labels used to group firearm owners into one neat group. It makes us citizens who are concerned about our, and our neighbor's rights and safety.

 

I gather that you believe that without a pistol grip, the AR-15 would be a lot less accurate and a lot less dangerous. Do you have any data to support that claim?

And what, specifically, do you mean by rapid firing mode? Are you talking about the same mode that's shared by all semiautomatic rifles?

Also, how many school shootings were done with an AR-15?

 

Nonsense.

Whether they are needed is irrelevant. Rights can only be restricted if there is a good reason for that restriction.

There isn't a good reason for banning pistol grips.

A second follow up shot is a common occurrence in hunting.

Nonsense.