After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Exchange student who threatened school shooting had 1,600 rounds: Police

 

Except that the question you're answering was directed at only school shootings in a transparent attempt to minimize the damage AR 15s have caused, likely under the cover that school shootings are what is explicitly mentioned in the thread topic.

I think this answer, however, is far more useful and to the point.

 

If it's bought lawfully, and kept and used lawfully, it's absolutely nobody's business but my own, as upheld by the supreme court.
And it's every citizen's duty to look after their own and their neighbor's rights. Law enforcement is for after the fact and has no obligation to stick it's neck out for anyone. If you think the police or any branch of law enforcement is obligated to protect you and your family, you're sadly, and often tragically, mistaken.

 

10 of the above have nothing to do with schools.

 

So now you've heard it twice.

 

Even a bare minimum of physics and force vectors knowledge makes this post a complete falsehood.

 

Actually, I asked you how many school shootings involved an AR-15. Your list was a transparent attempt to increase the size of the list I asked for to make the AR-15 look more evil.

Anyway, between 1984 and present, you could find only 3 instances of an AR-15 being used in school shootings?

 

The AR15 is evil. Its scary and black and synthetic. People only need wooden guns to hunt with.

 

I am unaware of any Supreme Court rulings requiring that the world be notified why a person chooses a particular type of firearm.

Last I heard the Supreme Court was in favor of the right to privacy.

There is nothing "supposed" about our Bill of Rights.

But it is certainly true that we're not about to give up our rights.

Not that anyone would be helped if we did give up our rights.

 

In order for the AR-15 to be the cause of this damage, there would have to be a plausible explanation as to how the use of an AR-15 created more damage than would be caused using a rifle that didn't have a pistol grip.

No such explanation exists.

 

Well yes, if the restriction in question can be justified as serving a compelling governmental interest.

But that is beside the point. You claimed that the Supreme Court has ruled that people can pry into the reason why someone else chooses to have a certain type of gun. And you made this claim as an objection to mcme's statement that it is nobody's business why he chooses to have a type of gun that is not restricted by law.

Baring access to a type of gun if the restrictions can be justified is one thing. Doing away with the right to privacy and prying into why someone chooses one legal item over a different legal item is quite something else.

 

And those laws are in place and we're not contesting them. It's the ridiculous propositions now being tossed around that are creating an issue.

 

You should probably review the thread title. It's about gun control proposals in relation to the number of school shootings. That's why I asked you how many AR-15s have been used in school shootings. You came up with three. I think that about sums up your justification for banning the AR-15.

Now, the Las Vegas shooting was done by a guy who used 22 AR-15s. That would be the exception, not the rule. And a witness to the Orlando nightclub shooting said that the guy's rifle jammed and he started using his pistol. Don't you ever wonder why the majority of casualties from semiautomatic rifles used in mass shootings are under ten? That seems out of sinc with your rant about how many people are killed by them in such a short period of time.

Here, I'll show you:

Las Vegas: Twenty-two semi-automatic rifles (58 killed).
San Francisco UPS shooting: two pistols (3 killed).
Orange County, Florida: pistol (5 killed).
Fort Lauderdale, Florida: pistol (5 killed).
Burlington, Washington: Semi-automatic rifle (5 killed).
Orlando, Florida: Sig Sauer semi-automatic rifle and pistol (49 killed).
San Bernardino, California: Two semi-automatic rifles and two pistols (14 killed.
Colorado Springs, Colorado: Semi-automatic rifle (3 killed).
Umpqua Community College: Five pistols (9 killed.
Chattanooga, Tennessee: Semi-automatic rifle, pistol, and shotgun (5 killed).
Charleston, South Carolina: Pistol (9 killed).
Isla Vista, California: Three pistols and two knives (6 killed).
Fort Hood, Texas: Two pistols (3 killed).
Washington, D.C.: Shotgun and pistol (12 killed).
Santa Monica, California: Semi-automatic rifle and pistol (5 killed).
Newtown, Connecticut: Semi-automatic rifle and pistol (27 killed).
Brookfield, Wisconsin: Pistol (3 killed).
Minneapolis, Minnesota: Pistol (6 killed).
Oak Creek, Wisconsin: Pistol (6 killed).
Aurora, Colorado: Semi-automatic rifle and pistol (12 killed).
Oakland, California: Pistol (7 killed).
Seal Beach, California: Three pistols (8 killed.
Tuscon, Arizona: Pistol (6 killed).
Manchester, Connecticut: Pistol (8 killed).
Huntsville, Alabama: Pistol (3 killed).
Fort Hood, Texas: Pistol (13 killed).
Binghamton, New York: Two pistols (13 killed).
Dekalb, Illinois: One shotgun and three pistols (5 killed).
Omaho, Nebraska: Semi-automatic rifle (8 killed).
Blacksburg, Virginia: Two pistols (32 killed).
Salt Lake City, Utah: One shotgun and one pistol (5 killed).
Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania: One shotgun, one pistol, and one bolt-action rifle (5 killed).
Golita, California: Pistol (6 killed).
Red Lake Indian Reservation, Minnesota: One shotgun and two pistols (9 killed).
Meridian Mississippi: One shotgun and one semi-automatic rifle (5 killed).
Wakefield, Massachusetts: Semi-automatic rifle, shotgun, and pistol (7 killed).
Honolulu, Hawaii: Pistol (7 killed).
Fort Worth, Texas: Two pistols (7 killed).
Atlanta, Georgia: Four pistols and one hammer (9 killed).
Columbine, Colorado: One semi-automatic rifle and one shotgun (13 killed).
Jonesboro, Arkansas: Three semi-automatic rifles (5 killed).
Garden City, New York: Pistol (6 killed).
San Francisco, California: Three pistols (8 killed).
Olivehurst, California: One shotgun and one .22 rifle (4 killed).
Iowa City, Iowa: Pistol (4 killed).
Killeen, Texas: Two pistols (22 killed).
Jacksonville, Florida: One semi-automatic rifle and one pistol (10 killed).
Stockton, California: One semi-automatic rifle and one pistol (5 killed).
Edmon, Oklahoma: Three pistols (14 killed).
San Ysidro, California: One pistol, one semi-automatic rifle, and one shotgun (21 killed).
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Of those 50 incidents, 18 involved semiautomatic rifles. Of those 18 incidents, six resulted in more than ten deaths.

Of the incidents involving handguns, six resulted in more than ten deaths.

It would appear that you are trying to squeeze every last bit of mileage from the Las Vegas shooting as you possibly can.