After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Then you just live in a very insular, Americanized version of reality

To suggest that other countries arent as free because they have strictly gun laws is just absurd. Its actually the opposite - if other countries are able to enjoy the same freedoms we have while also having stricter gun laws and without being overrun by a tyrannical government, that just suggests the 2nd amendment isnt what is protecting us from tyranny in the first place.

Edit, this was in response to toggle

 

I personally find the lack of freedom appalling.

 

America is the only free country in the world.

Not really. Free people have the right to have guns for self defense.

Those other countries are not able to enjoy the same freedoms. If they were, they would be allowed to have guns to defend themselves.

 

Lol I'm done

America is the only free country in the world? Please for the love of god travel a little bit and stop embarrassing us

 

Except these combinations of features do not cause any problems whatsoever.

Yes.

That depends on what you mean by legal role. The NRA is allowed to speak out against violations of the Constitution and is allowed to vote politicians out of office when they violate people's rights.

 

Yes.

Free people have the right to have guns for self defense.

I prefer to not subject myself to the jurisdiction of countries that are not free.

I'm sorry if you are embarrassed by the facts that I post. But I feel that I must continue to post facts.

 

No Offence Meant.......But Please Explain......"What Is Our Lack Of Freedom".....????

Australia Is A Beautiful Country......Devoid Of All The Shit America Puffs It's Chest Out And Boasts

About.......I Don't Need To "Walk Conciled" To Walk To My Local Supermarket......

So Don't You Dare Tell Me What Freedom Is.....



Cheers Glen.

 

Willful ignorance

 

I provided that explanation in post #2521 at the top of this page.

Can you point out any facts that I am wrong about?

If I'm completely correct in every respect then that is a sign that I'm probably not ignorant.

 

Um when you said America is the only free country in the world. And you dont even realize what a joke that is which makes it even worse

 

Free people have the right to have guns for self defense.

Can you name any other country in the world where people have the right to have guns for self defense?

 

It would seem the gun advocates are picking on the gun law reform folks. Perhaps this thread should be locked? I don't think that there is any point to the discussion anymore. We are all familiar with each other's arguments.

I think that no matter what the arguments against it are I'm going to vote for a ban on assault weapons whenever I get the chance to. I know some who are part of this discussion will do the opposite. But I think the majority of Americans are at least beginning to see the real dangers of assault weapons.

 

When you think your view is the only correct view, it's called ethnocentrism. I am guilty of it too! Sometimes it can be hard to see things from someone's perspective. I remember standing in a line with this woman behind me in a foreign country. She kept inching ever so close to me. I couldn't understand it! But perhaps in her culture it is acceptable to stand closer together. Other cultures aren't bad or wrong. They're only different.

 

Canada, Switzerland, Finland, Serbia , Saudia Arabia, Mexico, Russia, Israel..shall I go on? Even Glenglen's country allows gun ownership, but it is strictly regulated

3 countries protect gun ownership in their constitution. - Mexico, Guatamala, and the US. Many others dont specifically protect the right to bear arms but allow guns with varying degrees of regulation .

 

Why......?????... I Am 70 Years Old.....I Have Never Needed A Gun For What You Call "Self Defense"

WHAT The Hell Are You Trying To Prove With Your "Mentaly Unstable" Posts...???...



Cheers Glen.

 

He doesnt even realize Americans are in a negative feedback loop. Americans think they need guns for self defense because there are so many guns in circulation that if someone does commit a property crime they likely arent going to do it without a gun.

Whereas in other countries, being a victim of an armed intruder isnt a worry. It just isnt likely to happen. No armed intruder = no need for a gun for self defense

 

How exactly is having a pistol grip on a gun dangerous?

Although, go right ahead and make your focus entirely on pistol grips. Every time the gun control people do this, it ensures that no other gun control gets passed either.