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Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Emanresu, Oct 29, 2009.

  1. honeyfugle

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    Maybe the extra "the" was a point he was making...
     
  2. thedope

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    Indeed I did and I'm trying to suggest that if we apply that level of scrutiny to every word that we are using it reveals substance or meaning that we habitually overlook.

    Did you have awareness that the word the was entered twice when you simply copied and pasted the sentence?
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

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    Or perhaps it just shows up bad grammar.

    I spent a bit of time studying puzzles with the purpose of trying to understanding what it is about puzzles that trick the mind into thinking that something is a puzzle. Your puzzle is of an old family of puzzles that is easy to detect once you get the hang of it.
     
  4. thedope

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    I thought that might be the case, but my intent is not to trick the mind but to point to its unexamined prejudices. My question was did you notice the redundant wording when you initially copied and pasted.
    When we read a passage with any intent other than understanding, then we compromise our ability to comprehend.
    If I read a passage with the criterion of "does it coincide with my model", then I am not seeking comprehension.
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    I agree and feel that this is what most people do when reading the Bible. (I like to think I'm not among them but the truth is I very well could be, thus vigilance is necessary.)

    The trouble I find is many are too attached to their own understanding of what the Bible says that when the Bible disagrees with them, they as you say; "compromise 'their' ability to comprehend" rather than alter their understanding to agree with the Bible.

    PS To answer your question, no, I did not have awareness that the word the was entered twice when I simply copied and pasted the sentence, mainly because I did not bother to read it.
     
  6. thedope

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    There is a phenomena that I have observed. We find an alarm clock, we wind it and set it to go off and in doing so we are awakened to the day. However over time our practice begins to become habitual and we begin to sleep through the alarm. Some times it is helpful to venture away from our security of habit, create an unfamiliar sound that will again jar us into wakefulness. Do you ever venture out with your own voice without relying on that alarm clock you carry with you? That is without the aid of ready reference to the written word.

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    The Bible does not "take a position". If we are altering understanding to agree with any position then we are abandoning our understanding for the sake of compliance.

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    Perhaps this is why I get the sensation you are not really paying attention to what is being said. I find myself responding to the same questions as though I had not offered the answer already. I am not here to beat anyone back, I more question, how long must I remain with you.
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

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    Why? Are you saying I should disregard God's Word?
    So you are advocating maintaining your understanding even if your understanding is incorrect?
    I do not ask you to "remain" with me.

    Frankly, I'm about the only one that seems to be able to make any sense of what you say, so saying I'm not paying attention may be a bit of a underestimation on your part.

    As to your offering answers to questions, as has been pointed by others not just me, you tend to answer in stilted quasi-Bible speak and with obscure disjointed sentences in a seeming attempt to sound profound but ultimately just makes you very hard to understand at all.

    With that in mind, I'm sorry if I ask you to answer the same question several times but at least I'm making the attempt to understand what you are trying to say and keep you in the conversation. but you might want to keep in mind (1 Corinthians 14:27-28). :D
     
  8. thedope

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    Not at all. I'm suggesting that you may find you have within yourself Gods living word. I see that it is there but that you become tentative as you defend a position.

    I advocate that we continually challenge the assumptions we develop as we "add up" our gains. Today's understanding becomes tomorrows prejudice

    If a man sue for your cloak give him your coat also. You didn't, someone else did.

    The reason you have a facility with me is that we both share some level of fundamental understanding of the subject. And even in some circumstances, rare and peculiar to you and I.

    I apologize for my lack of conventional grammar. I am unconcerned with what impression I may make. I do not know what I may say next. At the same time I am versed in language that has fallen from favor over time.
    That is the language in vogue before the confusion of tongues. Before the age of suspicion and therefore the need for description. A language that can be taught.

    I very much appreciate your courtesy and enjoy speaking with you.
     

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