America: The Police State

Yeah.

If you talk to the most conservative people you meet, most of them will turn out to REALLY be the most liberal people you've met, they just think they're conservative because of one or two of the hotbutton talking points that's been designed to get people like them.j

 

What freaks me are the well meaning conservative neighbors who are ready and willing to report any and whatever they consider to be suspicious activity.

 

No it won't. Well not in the way you might think.
It just looks great on TV when they beat the hell out of you.

You got to embarrass and do everything possible to stop these fucks.
I sincerely doubt that we're going to win this fight. But it's now coming down to a question of how were going to end. Personally, I'm not going down without making them pay for it.

 

About a month ago some group actually went around and hung fliers on everyone's door in the neighborhood instructing us on just how to do that and what to look for and how there were rewards and the whole ball of wax. I wish I had kept it now, it pissed me off so much I pitched it.

But that's OK because apparently they are teaching mailmen and meter readers on what to look out for.

 

There are definitely different standards across the US and it is difficult to get a pulse overall. Some people like to imagine though, that the US should enjoy a homogeneous moral sense, and that can create a sense of oppression. I don't think it is out of line or disrespectful to individuals living in a bona fide police state to feel put upon. Pain is pain.

 

Perhaps America cannot be considered a police state compared to other countries that have no personal freedoms, but the fact of the matter is that the Patriot Act gives the federal government broad powers and if the conditions were favorable, the Patriot Act gives a legal precedent for America to become a police state.

Does anyone live in a small town? One does not have to consider the federal level only to see how America is moving towards becoming a police state. I live close to a very small, sleepy southern town that spends a ridiculous amount of the local budget to fund the police force. Why would a town with a population of under 10,000 and an extremely low level of crime need a police force with close to 100 cops on the payroll?

 

Uh, the question of WMDs was brought up constantly by the media.

That's cute, you think the media is lock step with the government.

What you fail to mention is that was just one massive protest, while on Feb. 15, 2003 over 400,000 took to the streets of NYC, and there were simultaneous protests in Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, D.C. and numerous other cities. Sorry our country is too vast for everyone to congregate in one city.

Right, except the police in most countries can detain someone for between 48-72 hours before having to release them. Damn you America, errr, I mean world.



They allow peaceful protests in other countries, but not in the USA anymore. They're too fucking paranoid.[/QUOTE]

Right, just gonna continue living in my police state wet dream and ignore the hundreds if not thousands of protests that go on every year.


Seriously calling the US a fascist state is hysterical and purposely meant to inflame. It's no better than the news stations constantly using the term Nazi, communist, ect, it destroys all chance of a rational debate because you just choose to ignore pragmatic reality.

 

Exactly. They're going to fill those new jails (if the bill is passed) with young people and medical cannabis patients who are made criminals under the new laws put in place with the same bill.

It's essentially an all-in-one "fuck you" bill. It proposes laws that will (purposely) target medical cannabis patients as well as younger people, while at the same time proposes spending billions to make new prisons to put them in. They haven't even commited a crime yet and there's already a freshly painted cell waiting for them. Doesn't even smell like urine yet...

 

As I think someone else already said, it is a matter of degrees. Sure, we may have longer leashes or politicians that are better at hiding their true intent, but it is still a police state to some degree. Perhaps not as bad or as in-your-face as other countries, especially ones overseas, but a spade is a spade.

 

that's where the powers that be are so clever... or try to be at least... the Police State operates in a covert manner most of the time... when it is left no choice but to operate overtly, and we get to see some pics, we rarely get the full story, and if we get anywhere close, it is complained about for sure, but nothing seems to be done about it, other than the "disposables" who take the brunt of things... this is something i have witnessed over a long period of time... (the last 30 years or so) ofcourse it has gone on a lot longer than that... i am only referring to things i have actually lived through and was conscious of...

a quote from the American dictionary on my computer:
[police state
noun
a totalitarian state controlled by a political police force that secretly supervises the citizens' activities.]

errrrm... i voted yes!


EDIT: sorry luna, i kinda said the same thing as you there... didn't see your post...

 

i must have missed that too.... sounds like "the word police"!... i think Nazi is a good metaphor for what is happening in the USA...

the collusion of American Corporations with the Nazis during WWII and the collusion of the American Government with Japan after the war with regards to live human torture and experimentation (Hirohito's little baby, as i call it) are far more of a fucking insult to humankind don't you think?

 

I have become so depressed...living in America.

 

Nobody is forced to work in prison, in fact in most cases it's seen as an earned privilege, especially paying jobs. Not to mention the fact paying prisoners a substantial amount of money makes for easy targets. Nobody is going ransom someone over the 80 cents an hour they make in the machine shop since it can be assumed all of the money is being spent in the prison's store, and money wired in from family is easy to keep secret. You know the person is making $190 a week the whole situation changes, the irony is I don't think anyone would want to work at that point out of fear.

Also our prisoners are in there for more of a crime than just being a certain religious group. Hilarious, you're comparing US prisons to the round up of Jews into concentration camps in WW2. Lemme call the Shoah foundation and see what they think about that.

Also New York is closing some of its prisons
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/27/133276372/new-york-gov-threatens-to-mothball-more-prisons

 

dont get me started on prisons.. lol.. it wouldnt be to long, before they being using inmates on the organ transplant list. Got to keep the elite living, you know....

here they give them new organs.. I think its a trap though. hes just a better burglar now, once hes out jail. he employing hundreds of leos when he steps over the line, and he will... job security.. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/31/health/main326305.shtml

 

let's see... junior high school, san antonio, texas, 1971... me, asserting my right to assocate with a girl during lunch, to the vice prinicple; the vp said to me, "you have no rights! when you are here at this school, you are a ward of the state of texas. i am a public servant and representative of the state of texas... AND YOU WILL OBEY!

american schools = totalitarian police state.

i'm on the federal government's "no fly" list, which prohbitis me and others, from flying in, out of, or over the united states, without due explantion or due process.

twice i have had to go to canada so i could get a flight... YEA CANADA! :cheers2:
FUCK THE U.S.A.!


i'm sure since i work for the aclu that is one of the reasons i'm on the government's shit list.