Anarchy and Human Nature

Discussion in 'Anarchy' started by Shane99X, Jan 13, 2006.

  1. Dr Phibes

    Dr Phibes Banned

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    They are dead theories you are talking about. Nitpicked apart by capitalist economists and pushed forth by the capitalist propoganda machine as the toys of youthfull folly. I do not belittle your motivation nor do I seek to say you are not an anarchist - I know nothing of your life outside this forum. I merely wish to inject a sense that anarchy is not really about Kropotkin, Bakunin, Proudhon et-al - anymore - I trust that you ARE an anarchist I admire your spirit but feel that it is REALLY nearly time for that revolution and wish that anarchists would realise they have persuaded nobody with dead rhetoric. Think for yourself - do not keep using these dead poets as an excuse to push forward your viewpoint I am interested in LIVE anarchists not dead ones. I'm making an attempt at peace but only if I can have some of your thinking - not the thinking of some bourgeois bookwriter.
     
  2. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    those "bourgeois bookwriter"s actually took part in revolutions. When was the last time you did.

    Do some research.

    I seriously doubt a network consultant who once got hit with a batton is more of a "real anarchist" than bakunin who spent years in prison for his actions against the state, or emma goldman who actually took part in the spanish revolution.

    You have the balls to call them bourgeois?!?!

    Because they put their thoughts on paper!?!?

    When was the last time the state tried to asassinate you?

    Also, thinking for yourself is not the same as dismissing the thoughts of others because they are dead.

    I'll take a dead anarchist over a living poser computer tech any day.
     
  3. Dr Phibes

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    They could write at a time not many people did - their words won no revolution - they merely put opinions forward - they were bourgeois in the sense that they did not start those revolutions nor did their theories. Starving people started those wars and oppressed people started them Yesterday you proffered the writings of some ponce who deigned to tell me what anarchists in the latter 20th and early 21st centuries are thinking and it is he and those other dullards I accuse of pontificating over the thoughts of people who know the theories and choose to move things on with direct engagement with a modern debate rather than relying on others genius - you fail to see the point that your mind is 10000 times more powerful in a battle over 21st century politics than any dead theorists books could ever be
    Only I am beginning to suspect that you do not realise the difference between an anarchist and a communist. That fact is bourne out by the black and red avatar
    My avatar would be all black if I could be bothered to get that together
    since I do not admit to a socialist tendency as it is a form of slavery. You may be syndicalist - me I think you are offering others talent as a means to make people think you are clever
     
  4. Dr Phibes

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    The nearest they got was when they took me to a disused carpark when I was arrested at a demo-
    they beat me up until I told them what they wanted to know
    name DOB, political sympathies, groups i associated with
    then they threw me in the back of a police van (unmarked) and dumped me 10 miles outside of town - I realised then a change of tactic was needed
    why battle me
    I have something in common with you
    I want a discussion not an argument
     
  5. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    And yet from the time you started posting in here it was all about how we're not "real anarchists"....

    Smart way to start a dialog....

    i'm done.
     
  6. Dr Phibes

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    You were done a long time ago -
    I still dont think some brain dead cut and paste artist is a real anarchist
    and I did not say that about everyone here
    incase it escaped your attention - you are the big man around here
    with your sticky posts
    you are the one with the supposed knowitall - except - none of it is YOUR
    thoughts or knowledge its all fuckin no-brain cut and paste.
    I just dont believe you know what those books were really talking about
    I notice that at no time did you refute
    any textual analysis I made but just
    continued to attack me for pointing out that you say nothing that
    is your own work
     
  7. m6m

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    Anarchy is only possible amongst those whose psycho-dynamic is not imbalanced by a neurotic preoccupation with fear and insecurity.

    We begin analyzing the dynamics of our psycho-energy by understanding that all of our thoughts, senses, emotions and dreams are like everything else in the universe, a form of energy; psycho-energy.

    And like all energy, psycho-energy also follows the two basic laws of thermodynamics, and is constantly seeking its own equilibrium.

    For example, when we look at hierarchical civilization, we are looking at a neurotic imbalance of psycho-energy due to a preoccupation with fear.

    Ego, whose job within the psyche is our survival and reproduction, steps in and triggers a whole series of responses to compensate for the appearance of fear.

    This includes repression, delusion and denial.

    It gets worse, and not only worse, but self-perpetuating.

    However, if enough of us become familiar with analyzing the dynamics of psycho-energy, and are commited to publicly exposing the mass neurosis and psychosis motivating hierarchical politics, religion and business, then we can begin the process of regaining a balanced psycho-dynamic necessary for Anarchy.

    Once exposed as imbalanced and unattractive, hierarchical civilization will cease to be one of Ego’s options of mass psychosis.

    However, that just takes us back to step one, where, still responding to a dangerous environmental stimulus, we still remain preoccupied with neurotic irrational fears and insecurities.

    Exposing neurotic fears and insecurities will not cure them.

    Ego will just hide them by repressing them deeper in our subconscious where they will seek to manifest themselves deceptively and indirectly into our patterns of social behavior.

    More repression and more deceptions will just perpetuate a fearful social environment.

    However, the science of neuro-cognitive psychology is now developing drug therepies that will soon help break the self –perpetuating feeding frenzy of our neurotic fears and insecurities.

    With that hope of returning to a healthy psycho-dynamic in the near future, Anarchy may once again become our wholistic social reality.
     
  8. Art Delfo

    Art Delfo It is dark

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    I think human nature is selfish, but anarchy could work through mutual aid. Each person working togther to ensure their own survival and well-being
     

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