and another: thrown out of an airplane without a parachute at 10,000 feet

Unfortunately your parachute didn't open.

 

10,000 feet, no parachute? Been there, done that!

 

From 10,000 feet im not sure it would hurt much at all...

 

If you want to discuss, discuss, i really can't be bothered with pot shots.

 

I have no intention of taking pot shots at you and that wasn't intended as such. Sometimes civility takes a bit of creative interpretation on the recipient's end- where something that could otherwise be easily taken as an attack is deliberately taken as humor, for example for the sake of avoiding a bigger, pointless quarrel.

 

I'm all quarreled out, perhaps if you decided to be less cryptic from time to time i wouldn't make an incorrect inference.

For the sake of demonstrating your point perhaps you would like to enlighten me as to what you actually did mean by that comment?




Edit; on a side note i just had a huge case of Deja vu.

 

Let's just say that Makaveli is a long time user who has occupied a couple different accounts but the mode of his operation is to engage the unsuspecting in a debate where he throws out a few incendiary retorts and will shine the white hot spotlight on an error or misquote made by his adversary to enlist them into escalating the debate into a verbal war. He will deliberately choose provocative phrases and aggressive verbal strategy to draw the other person into a battle where he will do his best to shred them. If I were to be playing a similar game I might say he played you like a Stradivarius but I will simply rely on my parachute metaphor-barb to say that you fell for it- at 32 feet per second squared.

There's no shame in that- we've all been dragged into it at one point or another, but we tend to become accustomed to the game to the point where it likely ceases to be fun- a possible secondary explanation of why new identities are created. This is, of course a theory- but one that strikes me as plausible.

 

Such a big debate over a useless question. The only useful thing you can do when your falling from 10,000 feet to almost certain death would be position your body in a way to prevent critical impact on your vital parts, ex. head, chest. I think landing in a frog stance would be most realistic.

 

Subjecting an unprotected physiology to such velocity... makes me wonder if survival would be worth it. I might plummet head first... at a chunk of granite.

 

Thats a very pretty way to say he is troll that throws around cuss words. And don't worry, i'm not ashamed, i myself often engage in debates for fun, however i can say for myself that i don't need hidden identities to do it, i am always just 'Xac'.

What makes you say he played me? what exactly did i fall for? and what nerve was hit to say he shreded me? personally, i think i did very well, i didn't engage into the emotional side very much at all and was able to maintain civil language... which can't be said for our good friend mr reborn, who failed on both accounts.

Personally, i think i may have upset him, in context of the information you have just given me, it doesn't make any sense for him to be so defensive, if he wanted to "shred" me wouldn't he try and hit one of my nerves so to speak? Instead i think, unless he is not any good at his own game, I hit one of his instead.

Which is where i reveal something which will lead on to another point. My original comment about "spending less time assuming and more time having sex with women" was intended to be silly, lighthearted. Now if Mr. reborn wants to argue with me, he didn't do very well by getting stuck on that.

Now lets discuss another thing stinky, i think you blow alot of smoke out of your ass, obviously you blow it up mr. reborns. Now with your parachute comment (nice metaphore, clear) you told me that my perception of the remark was inappropriate, infact you gave me a little "lesson" on how to interpret such things. Yet now you admit that my inference was in line with what you were implying to begin with.

I am going to blow some smoke out my mouth you can continue blowing it out your ass if you want.


Oh, and my guess would be Bird_migration.

 

Heh- perhaps it is I who misjudged you...

On one hand you say that you are quarreled out but on the other hand you say I blow smoke out my ass and up Mr. Reborn's.. you use the word "obviously" essentially placing yourself in the position of determining what is fact and what isn't. In that bit you've likely contributed more than you realized... or perhaps you calculated that I'd engage in the verbal war after your insinuation concerning reborn's and my sexuality. Isn't that the same as a verbally gifted debater sinking to the level of to the level of using "bitch" and "faggot" remarks?

Everything is subject to agenda driven interpretation such as my alluding to you being played like a Stradivarius. I would expect you to differ with that but in even bringing that up have I not evoked a rather defensive response to something that was intended partially as an olive branch? The use of words and phrases that even while when adhering to the strictest of facts can evoke emotional reactions and draw one away from simply and succinctly defending his point. It is my observation that makaveli did just that to you... and perhaps you did it as well to him.

The fact is that I've observed his tactics in the past and this is what he does so very well. While he pulled out an old play book to engage you, it seemed to me that you were the one to go out of character. Reading your posts directed in response to me, there is a certain compulsion to interpret some level of anger in your words. Perhaps your adrenalin is still flowing in the wake of Adam's onslaught- then again perhaps not.

We're splitting hairs as to what constitute trolling here... there's plenty to support that label on a few of us here, you and me included. Your language toward me seems calculated to offend OR you're just not being careful in your words. You said before that you really can't be bothered with pot shots. Was this, which was directed at me, because you're tired of dealing them out in your exchange with Adam (makaveli) or that you'll only deal with them coming from people you deem worthy? You seem to come from a standpoint that you are the only one here who has all the facts and there aren't many people who won't take offense at that. To me THAT is a hallmark of a troll.

By the way, while we argue this pointless bit, we have slammed into the ground after being pushed out of the aircraft.

 

Reading this thread makes me want to jump out of an airplane.

 

Well if you do you will land in 40 seconds (give or take a few).

Assuming it is at about 10,000 feet.

Note: most air travel insurance will not cover jumping out of an airplane. So I would skip buying it.

 

40 secs, eh? Never really thought about it.

That's a long time to reconsider/regret what I'd just done.

 

I would try and steer myself to the matress factory...land on one of those pillowtop matresses

 

Implications and inferences. The smoke remark isn't intended to hurt but it isn't intended to be nice, i am expressing how i feel at this moment about you and reborn. Unfortunatley you have miss understood what i was actually saying. To blow smoke out of your ass isn't a sexual reference at all. What i am saying, to use a more crude expression is that i think you talk alot of shit.

Now when i say you blow smoke up reborns ass, again, isn't a sexual reference, what i am saying is that i think you talk him up, now i am not saying that he (or yourself for that matter) aren't intelligent but to me it appears as if you're 'talking him up' to make him sound like he is doing a better job at debating then he really is, personally i think he missed the point entirely and was very sloppy. The reason i said it was obvious is because it is based on the discussion in this thread between you and him, which is the basis for that remark.

Whether or not reborn, "played me like a Stradivarius" is far from fact, and it is discussion like this that makes me think less of you. So rather then thinking of me being defensive it is more that i was intending to put the spot light on aspects of yourself that you brought into the thread rather then obssess about the message my mind wondered to the messenger .

Anger is not the best word, but yes i do feel a level of disgust which is quite apparent in my post. The fact that you guys have an 'old play book' so to speak only fuels my disgust towards the both of you and describing the discussion as an onslaught all though only expressive only fuels my thought that the both of you are, again to use a crude phrase, are full of shit.

Me? I'm an honest poster that comes here to discuss, if you start an argument you shouldn't think of the other poster as troll merely because they respond, not that i was calling you a troll although i'd hardly say that i believe you to be completely honest.

The pot shot remark was because of your parachute remark, i don't care for people to take shots at me with out an explanation or any further discussion, so remember you involved yourself in this not the other way around.

Again my language isn't intended to be hurtful but it is not sugar coated, i am telling you how i feel about this sort of attitude in as honest way, while trying to maintain a degree of politeness.

I think you're both full of shit and if you don't like it block me or convince me that, through your discussion that you can not only be honest with other people but far more importantly with yourself.

So you and Adam... wait is Adam indescribability? sorry, so you and Adam can take your play book and troll some one else i am thoroughly now bored of this conversation because i have nothing left of any meaning to be explained here and now.

 

or I would lay back and meditate and try not to think about the fact that I am going to die

 

I'm satisfied that you are and were posting with honesty. That really wasn't at issue in the first place. Everything else amounts to misunderstanding as far as my camp is concerned. I am no more allied with Adam than I am with you. I just have some experience talking with him and less likely to miscalculate as I clearly have with you. This errors have less at stake than miscalculating a jump from an aircraft... and hitting the water. As to your stance that a Olympic diver's technique of cutting into the water (affording a smaller surface of impact to its surface) would afford a greater chance of survival, in my mind this seems plausible- minus the mental factor of dealing with the surprise nature that the commenced fall- one would have to keep a cool head... and the impact would still have some trauma. Wouldn't instinct compel one to breathe in upon that impact and wind up drowning?

 

It is not like I have critiqued this mans entire writing style. I corrected the spelling of one word without ever throwing an insult at him. You came out of the sadows calling me out on correcting a misspelling. Something that happens all of the time.

I use words like bitch or faggot to level myself with the opposing debater. You were in no way able to provide a backing argument for your stance, and instead were more interested in repeating your initial point and bringing about the first of the verbal insults. When it becomes obvious that an opposer has no ground to stand on and was in fact completely unprepared for the argument at hand, I switch to a style that I feel that person can more easily rebut. You could not handle my arguments of fact, and so I felt you might be a bit better suited for a name calling contest since that is what your intent appeared to be anyway.

 

Please do not stir the hornet's nest at 10,000 feet.