Anonymous and LulzSecurity Declare WAR on Governments, Banks and other Big Businesses

That's why we have to change the system, change the conditioning that people are subjected to. Money is basically the biggest problem, so either a realistic monetary system would have to be introduced - which is not really possible because of our advanced technology - or we get rid of it altogether. Money has been the only thing holding us back and causing all this corruption for decades. Obviously some of the major targets are the banking dynasties so the moneyworld will definitely change.

You have to bear in mind that you can't think of our future like you do about the present. We must examine what the root causes of this corruption and violent oppression are and change them or do away with them. The way human beings think, the way they exist with their environment will have to change on a fundamental level.

It's time for the biggest revolution of them all, the one in our minds. We must reach a new level of understanding and make sure we equip the next generation to live better lives.

Besides, what would you rather have than a revolution? A big agreement for things to keep going as they are?

 

lol you misunderstand my point. As Hercules removed the heads of the hydra, more heads would grow. Eventually, he realized that he should burn the stump with fire after he decapitates it. no Prometheus=no fire=undefeatable hydra.

 

No, i would rather have like you said, reshape our minds. A revolution is a distraction from that and saps the energy that is needed for inner change.

 

Aaaaah I see! Nice.

I think it's going to be a case of stealing fire from the gods, too.

 

A revolution is the outward expression of that change. For some, it will be the annoucement of the time to change. You can't trust people in this system to change, they are incapable. They need the revolution as a symbol. It takes no energy to change inside, you sound like you're coming up with excuses out of fear or pseudo-intellectualism. Seriously, if we all changed our minds and actions at the same time then it would work, it would. But the general public are led through their lives by so many outside sources these days, they need to be guided by a different hand for the change to happen.

Please, if you can think of a better idea than a violent uprising then please express it but be realistic.

 

Yea, I was surprised there weren't more pointed remarks about him. Though it was too much about him personally. There should have been more about Wikileaks and their agenda. I don't really care all that much about the personality of the man behind it.

Every time any CNN anchor brings up Assange they always smirk and speak with a really condescending tone.

 

This is absolutely awesome! Finally someone standing up and doing something about things instead of just talking about it!

 

So they are hacking..sega..and...nintendo, for their grand revolution. Ooookay.

 

The human population is easily sustainable.

People like you are NOT watching population trends, growth, shrinkage, etc. It's not the number of people in the developed world hurting ANYTHING.

However, greedy people who make money when shit goes wrong ARE the problem. And if things go wrong because they make the population unsupportable and destroy the planet and it's environment, they make money.

 

I don't think they are responsible for the sega or the nintendo hacks. I'm fairly sure they did the sony one, and if they did it was part of a different 'plan'.

 

Please inform me, rather than telling me what I'm not doing.

 

It is very clear that the world is over populated.. if you do not see that.. then you need to do some looking at numbers yourself... When people are living twice as long as they use to.. Population is bound to get out of hand.. which it has.. and it's only gonna get worse... Personally I'd love to see a ban on birthing.. or a 1 child per house hold law enacted at least for a good couple decades.. In today's society and social means there is no reason to have a big family anymore.. it only makes financial success tougher.. unlike back in the day when people manually labored around the house and needed kids to sustain a healthy living environment

 

Well, since you started but left out some important points, I just had to fill them in, I wanted to let him speak for himself first...

It's not just the sheer number of people in the world but also how much they consume, so I'm afraid the number of people in the developed world hurts A LOT at the moment, especially the americans because they seem to consume more resources per capita than any other nation on earth. The sea is being fished to empty, the reefs shattered and anything we haven't farmed or mined to death we are giving a good dose of pollution. And it's pretty much the same story for the land. Couple this with a lack of technological application preparedness and I would have to say that the human population is not sustainable.

Unless you meant that the human population is sustainable IF we were to use our technology perfectly, had no monetary system, had no greedy people that would consume more than they actually required and were to slow down on the breeding front. I would agree that the human population as it is is theorectically sustainable but not with our current approach.

 

Most of those /b/tards are just 12 year olds on 4chan.

 

Population growth drops dramatically in developed countries. The problem is the immense greed of a few people, who allow most of the worlds population to live in utter squalor with no hopes of ever climbing out. The only thing they can do is have babies. The problem is not families with a few kids, the problem is allowing much of the world to have a dozen kids per family.

Laws on it can easily get it under control quickly, like in china..... unless you watch, and realize the actual problems this makes, like the widespread murder of baby girls.

Right now we are to the point of problems, but if a few very irresponsible greedy people would behave or could be reined in, pollution and other such problems would be tremendously smaller, there would be food a'plenty, etc.

The fact is, in the US, the population is only remaining stable because of the influx of central/south americans, who become assimilated and slow down on their undeveloped country habit of having too many children after a generation or two in this country.

Also, post 4444. four fours.

 

That includes everyone in the developed world who does not dedicate their time to fixing this problem. We are the problem.

Also, just out of interest, you should check out a short film called "The Muslim Demographic" which is about the birth rate of Muslims in the countries of Europe, compared to the birthrate of the "indigenous" people of that country. Interesting watch, maybe generalises a little bit though.

 

Let me guess: muslims don't assimilate easily, and keep having kids?

That's a very deep part of their culture, to outbreed their competition, while many other cultures just do it because it's the undeveloped thing to do.

There are americans (and middle eastern oil barrens, among others) who could single handedly feed the worlds starving.... the us government could do a lot towards it if they stopped paying farmers not to grow food and started paying them to grow food and sent it to africa.

Can some of us help? Sure, but not by sponsoring an african kid for a "charity" that will embezzle your donation. I personally would love to have the money to buy their problems away, but I don't, I hardly have the money to keep mooching off my parents and make it through school. And my plan is to help undeveloped countries that are torn apart and kept from developing by a US war on drugs by spreading common sense and education, and fighting the war on drugs. That's a near future goal of mine, through various media, and in the long run, I hope to have the money to help people, though I can't count on it.

So yeah, I'm not going to beauty school or whatever americans want to do for higher ed, I'm studying something I'm passionate about, and how it can help people, and how changing the murderous policies about it can help people as well. I don't think I'm the right one to talk down for not giving all I have, I'm saving up so I have more to give.