Another fun climate change thread

I do like it when the forest takes over though like I am drawn to old bomb mobiles sitting in the wood for 50 years I'm very fond of them. I like to look and imagine who had that car and why did it end up out here in the hills to be disregarded? Possibly a get away car? Kinda cool.

 

It's not cool when somebody has stolen that car and then they have torched it.
That's also not ok.

People burning used petrol really that is disgusting. How about keep it and get rid of it at the tip instead.
Same with your old belongings take them to the tip

 

I dunno I wasn't alive 50 years ago but the car still remains amongst its memories and I like that. Tbh it's no different than an abandoned shack or a windmill somewhere. Probably more steel in a windmill or barn than an old car that's now the home to many native insects or animals.

 

1) historic documentation
2) radiocarbon dating
3) studying of ice growth

The early middle ages were likely not as cold

 

Perhaps in the northern hemisphere.

 

In addition, there was a matter of "The little Ice Age" from 1300-1800 ....lol....

 

Uhm... that's what we were talking about in the first place. I was just adding to it that the early middle ages were (likely) not as cold as this 'little ice age' (technically an incorrect term btw)

 

I didn't read the entire thread but I figured you couldn't miss that

 

It depends if you are on about the drug or the era

 

"The Little Ice Age was a period of cooling that occurred after the Medieval Warm Period."

So like I said, it was warmer in the middle ages.

 

Not sure you said that in this thread but ok.

 

Those going on about how terrible pollution is here obviously have nothing to compare it to. They must not have been around fifty years ago, and evidently haven't traveled much.

If the rest of the world were as dedicated to minimizing pollution as we are here now then it'd be a pristine planet!

 

The US is the 2nd biggest contributor of CO2 in the world, second to China

 

ahahahahaaaa they used a boat...they were very good shipbuilders.

 

It's a fact the winters in my youth were more wintry than they have been in the last decade here in the Netherlands. If that's a cyclical natural thing or man caused climate change remains arguable. The retreating of a lot of glaciers and what's happening on the north pole are better indications of longterm change with serious consequences.
Even if people are at odds with how that is caused, they can hardly deny our global impact on the environment (like directly, not through climate change). Crop protection, microplastics, direct impact of exhaustion gasses etc. etc. That shit needs to change before we really are at a point of no return

 

Complaining about no snow? No work/expense clearing it up, no crashes to deal with, no salt to rot your vehicles? Move a little North and/or West - they've been getting more than their fair share. Watch the news sometimes.

And apparently, you forgot to look outside a couple days ago. There's people in Virginia still with snow on the ground today from that one. Reality: PA and WV have inches on the ground right now!

The James is way cleaner now than it was fifty years ago. Cleanup efforts have been adamant, and pollution from decades ago is still leaching away. Things are heading in the right direction, getting cleaner every day. What more do ya want? Magic?

 

Mostly correct, but the fallacy is extrapolating a "point of no return". Besides the fact that the only constant is change, there is no point of no return when it comes to the planet sustaining life. There's always a corrective force/action. Except when the sun burns out and implodes.

 

Some things are heading in the right way. But far from all. His concerns are legit. If you notice how many people and industries carry on with their destructive practices just to save money or out of convenience you can't seriously conclude we are overall on the right path.

 

I don't want a planet where a significant amount of species are gone and ecosystems are less diverse and functioning merely because we humans acted on this conviction.

 

There's no "right path". Only different paths which suit different people to varying degrees. Many things affect our quality of life in many ways; there is much trade-off to be accepted in order to exist on this planet.