Another Nra Mass Shooting....

Hobbies: Killing Zombies?

Geeez ....

 

The republicans are saying to pray for the victims and their families, that's their answer ......here's a clue....the victims are dead! Praying isn't going to bring them back, or make the families all better.

 

As Orison said--shows dealing with murder ALL over the boob tube--years and years of little ones becoming inured to violence through violent video games (I say), politicians

acting extremely discourteous to one another, rude, lying talking heads 365/24/7 helping/setting the tone of discourse between us, the citizens, the elimination of well paying jobs for the middle class, the endless wars that rob us, THE TAXPAYERS , the boondoggles with military equipment , the attacks on anything liberal, the attacks on womens health, social security, unions almost gone--------a general malaise has descended on this country and it follows that those that are overwhelmed by EVERYTHING that has and is happening
here, will cause some to flip completely out and figure --fuck it---I'm gonna' kill me some people. It's in the air. It's all around and chances are , that that kid couldn't answer many questions about government or much of anything else. But he heard it all. They ALL hear it all the time. They're hearing it now----and will do this again and again.

Is this a happy well adjusted society? Are the citizens content with how it is run? Are there jobs that pay well enough to live comfortably? Are our politicians serving the citizens? Are they helping to re-build a middle class that in general would make for well adjusted citizens that could be proud of their lives, their families and their homes?

Why wasn't this happening when I grew up in the 40s-50s? Maybe I can answer --maybe I can't. EVERYONE could get a job then. The pay wasn't the greatest, but then articles/food/clothing/automobiles/homes and most everything else was easily attainable and reasonably priced. Employers provided insurance in many cases. A home and a family
was just over the horizon, given that you could and WOULD work. The politicians discussed issues and even though the divide was the same as now---they showed respect to each other and realized ---COMPROMISE was the only way a representative government could function.

The way I see it--entropy is working it's inevitable way through this society---the idea of which was one of the greatest experiments in human history. The very idea that citizens had choices and were protected by a man made bill of rights was a breakthrough that allowed people to live without the fear of some despot ruining or taking their lives just because they could and wanted to.

This is the country in which we live now and as sure as the earth spins and makes it appear the sun "rises" in the east, there is that small % of people that are on the edge and can/will be pushed over the "edge, " as this boy and others have done and will do. I know that this goes much deeper than just a malcontented individual and his useless last act

that will tear up those families of the victims. IMO, this whole godamnm society is now geared towards enabling those at the "top" to set the tone for the rest of us and their actions will be the death of us if something doesn't change for the better.

Yeah, the old man's talkin' politics again, if anyone even bothered to read this. There isn't enough room to get to ALL the shit I see that has and is happening to us in a thread on the internet. But I realize that most here could not have seen how these things have played out over the years as I have. Hell, you weren't even here. Maybe I rambled. Maybe I'm way off. Maybe everything is just hunky-fuckin'dory. Our guns will not be taken away---there will be more young men flipping out and killing innocents--all in a days work here in the USA.

 

I said we don't want to admit that "The probem is you and me".

Nor do I, but you're taking it too literally. I mean ordinary everyday people, who aren't seen as criminals or social problems, and then one day, they grab that gun that they keep "to defend themselves" (or their kid grabs it) and use it to kill a few others before they themslves fall, knowing that fame and glory will be their reward. Who's gonna be the next one--your neighbor? Mine?

But in fact, it's turning out that this particular nutcase was a loner with violent fantasies, as some of them (definitely not all) are. But that kind of personality is common enough that there's no way to make an effort to keep weapons away from them. And that rural versus urban split is a fallacy--if a wild animal gets you, chances are it'll take you by surprise and if you had a gun, you'd never have a chance to use it.

 

I'm soo frustrated with the inability to quote posts here.

Absolutely spot-on, Scratch. Entropy. Nobody gives a damn unless they're forced to look up from their texting. We're run by the top 1percent. Our country has been sold to the highest bidder and a new auction begins every day.

 

Yes and the winning bidders could not care less about what actually happens among and to the little people. Or seemingly to the country as a whole. They're in their gated enclaves

shuffling papers to make millions while complaining about food stamps, welfare cheats, womens healthcare for those less "fortunate"than themselves, AND BUSTING THE UNIONS. Then BRING THE FUCKIN'JOBS HOME and pay people a living WAGE. Those that display the worst in human nature are now running the joint and its playing itself out to the detriment of the citizenry. Entropy, indeed.

 

Access to guns is only part of the problem. Access to mental health services is probably a larger issue.

 

Frankly, I don't think a well adjusted and reasonably satisfied citizenry would be experiencing this. There are plenty of examples. And one of the clearest examples of the hubris and unconcern for those less fortunate was Reagans example of closing out the agencies that helped mentally ill folks in California during his stint as governor. (saved some money, doncha' know.)They roamed the streets,
slept on the sidewalks, harassed people continually-(through no fault of their own, really) and many ended up in jail, where they were safely tucked away out of sight. As I said---
the little people just need to pay their taxes, shut up and let our "all knowing--all seeing leaders," carry on with the sham. Agree with expanding mental health services---but hell--
THAT COSTS MONEY!! We have some new toys the pentagon needs paying for----please relax. And:

BUY MORE. BUY MORE NOW.

 

Just released,...the shooter had 6 guns at the scene plus body armor, another 7 guns at his home. The military denied him, because of mental illness....but he could still buy 13 guns legally. They still haven't confirmed or denied that any were assault weapons.

 

I think Raygun closed down the mental hospitals while he was POTUS. The military spends more in one day than all the mental hospitals did in a year. Like the Pope said...."You get what you pay for." The military isn't in the business of "peace".

 

And then there's all the accidental shootings...

He actually started that shit back when he was governor of California, turning downtown San Francisco into a giant open-air insane asylum. Scary place.

 

But I remember when he closed them all down across the country.

 

He didn't learn from his mistakes.

 

No, but the rest of us did. Hey--a little shit and piss on the sidewalks never hurt anyone.

 

Besides , they don't make any money for anyone. And surely it's their fault for being nuts and needing help.

 

Especially when they can have a "Get yur guns before they take them away" sale... Which usually happens after a mass shooting.

 

I heard Walmart were going to quit selling certain automatic rifles (due to not selling enough, according to them). So they put them on sale to get rid of them quicker.

 

Where I am at, we have very strict gun laws, Its up to each individual State to regulate firearms

Our problems are with illegal weapons.

Will posing politicians like Our President, step up to support enforcement of existing gun laws, in the face of opposition that says enforcement is racially biased?

Sure, its easy to take a shot at NRA.

I'm surprised Mr. Obama came on TV. after the shameful humiliation he received from Vlad Putin, Iran & China over Syria.
Now with the Chineese aircraft carrier in a Syrian harbor.

 

Where is Our President concerning the victims in Chiraq?

Who will mourn for Hadiya Pendelton?

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