Another NRA republican mass shooting

I meant the Military. One of those branches. I never understood the rivalry of the branches anyway, it's like; aren't you all on the same team? If you're gonna hate, hate the CIA- they're the ones stirring up the shit worldwide!

But in any case, that's your opinion. I am a sensitive guy, and a moral guy. And truth be told, I wouldn't want to have to kill someone. But, (and there's a big but) I do believe "There is a violence that liberates, and a violence that enslaves; there is a violence that is moral and a violence that is immoral."~Benito Mussolini~

 

more pressure to be the best, win against others than to co-exist and be happy together. I mean shit, that last bit sounds like hippy mumbo jumbo, no?

I think this is why you see more lone rangers (literally) in the US.

I know other countries I have been in there is a more sense of camradre amongst each other. It's celebrated and an attractive trait (one that can be jolly and warm up others).


On the extreme end here you risk looking needy or a fool or whatever. So much aloof and everything in between. It's hard to be collective in such a society.., where there isn't one universal social norm.


bs'ing a bit. not my deepest thoughts.

 

There's competition between the branches, because that's how people are. They're competitive, searching for ego boosts in their lives both professionally and in their personal lives.

They'll compare everything, from the differences in the types of training programs they have to go through to what benefits they receive by serving with what branch of the Military.

It's just human nature, and even if you're not in the Military, people compare and judge and compete. It's the fueling force behind gossip and all the other drama you see in other aspects of social interaction.

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And like I said in the other gun related issue...backround checks people, implemented consistently nationwide by a standard of applicability that all states have to follow, that is linked with mental health reform.

13 people died, and there were good guys with guns everywhere, therefore I say that the NRA's counterargument has fallen flat on it's face given the last 24 hours. Evidence says the shooter picked up guns as he went along.

 

mussolini tried to enslave my country. :sunny::sunny:

 

Koku-Okay, well evidently he was using the wrong kind of violence. I just mean sometimes violence is obligated. Afterall, if it weren't for violence, our country would've never been free from Brittan.

 

www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Confirmed-Shooter-at-Navy-Yard-One-Person-Shot-223897891.html

So what do you gun control advocates have to say about this? Take 'assault weapons' away from people acting in the line of duty also? Ban shotguns? Shit, why don't we just ban all guns and hope the bad people stop doing bad things?

You people are clueless.

 

I agree, to some degree.


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I disagree totally. Background checks, first of all, are typically checking for non-violent drug related charges. Frankly, I think it's wrong to deny these people access to self defense, just because they got caught using a little dope back in the day. Secondly, there are tons of misdiagnoses when it comes to mental health and, who would be denied? Would a single mother be denied the right to protect herself because she is depressed? Would a person be turned down for being "Bi polar" simply because they have a chemical imbalance? That's hardly fair, and it says in the Constitution "Shall not be infringed" so I also think we've allowed governments to have too much control over this. (I'm from the very Liberal NYS.)


Furthermore, no one knows what happened today, but saying good guys with guns failed, is too black-and-white to fit this real life situation. It's not like it was in 1776- only a small amount of people actually carry weapons on them (esp in Washington as they have much stricter gun laws.) Maybe people in the Navy were armed, but sometimes they do have to wait for orders, and notoriously our government never makes those orders. We don't know what happened behind the scenes, but I have suspicions that something else happened. The story changed a lot already. I think most of what we see/read is lies. I said in the other thread the government can easily find crazies to kill people, and other crazies to blame it on. It doesn't sit right with me.

Obama says "These people [who died] were Patriots." Patriots Mr. Obama? Why is he playing with our emotions? To push gun control. Meanwhile, he's soley responsible for drone striking little children, god forbid citizens are able to protect themselves!!

 

Who said anything about rivalry? For the record, I am a US Marine.

So you say. At the end of the day, I think you talk a good fight.

 

Then why don't we see more mass shootings committed by people actually living in poverty and on government assistance?

I think you are increasingly not alone in that regard.

ehhh, perhaps I did take what he said to literally.

 

So,,,,,,,,, Was the weapon registered, or was it illegally acquired?

 

The shotgun that he killed the cops with was probably bought illegally without a backround check in Virginia. The assault weapons he took off the dead cops were legally registered to the police dept.

 

Nothing about how or when he obtained the shotgun has come out. Indeed, the only think to come out so far is that an "assault weapon" (ie an AR15) was not recovered by police.

 

But he was most definitely an NRA Republican? Or just probably?

 

No! he was a skitzo and a government employee, who went there for mental health reasons. (and had a long history of violence.)

 

He was still employed by the US Government? Are we sure he went to the Navy Yard for appointments?

 

Idk if he was still employed, but I heard on the radio it was some crazy guy that "was nice" but, got violent quickly. I just wonder why though, he wasnt prosecuted for shooting a cars tires out in LO. I'm sure it had something to do with his service, as any average Joe, would've been prosecuted.

I wonder why the government ignored the facts behind this individual and allowed him any type of clearance. (or on the base at all.) This to me is an example of why government has too much power and control.

 

How would government having less power and control prevented this?

 

The guy had gun problems with cops in 04' in Wa state.

07' shoot through floor in appt. missing upstairs lady.

10' Kicked out of navy

10'ish, He was living in Va IIRC, Shot 3 rounds at construction workers, Arrested, But let go.

He was let go with little or no problems with his past an the navy still took him in 2007.

I highly doubt he is a republican, Another bullshit thread that 'jumped the gun' as usual by inbred. Another fail like usual, No facts just talking shit.

 

He was a Buddhist shooter, the ultimate oxy-moron. But it doesn't matter if he was a republican. Every mass shooting that happens is the fault of the NRA republicans that refuse to allow any and all gun reform to take guns out of the hands of nut jobs. The GOP is perpetuating domestic terrorism in America. There has been seven mass shootings since 2009 that have killed ten or more people in each massacre. That's over 70 Americans that have been murdered because of republicans. Yet they whine about four deaths in Benghazi. Like murder is okay, as long as it's American extremists doing the killing. Hypocrisy is the philosophy of the GOP.

 

You own firearms, What's you're excuse? You're posts are always nut job fueled!

It will never happen, When will you and the rest of the dumb-o's get that? You peasant side bitches and whines and gathers a few million to 'try and ban' OUR RIGHTS.
Funny thing though, For every dollar the dem's get toward, One thousand dollar(s) go toward our keeping them. You can throw a billion, There will be 10 billion in the NRA fund with-in hours.

I find it funny you don't give a shit about two navy seals protecting you're ass, But you are more worried about 70 people you never knew and did nothing to help/protect you.
You're dem's love the shootings, It pulls distraction away from their fuck ups, Whole lobama term, And try to keep sweeping it under the rug.

All the killings are the fault of nobama. Even since he took office, We have had nothing but problems. But you left that point out too, As usual.