better dead than red! i think i know who it is, because i believe she put it in her signature... 85% of the time, the means i'm being sarcastic. but not always. now that i think about it, i'm probably pretty hard to read on here sometimes... i really don't think there's a guideline to finding my serious posts. they probably tend to be slightly longer since most of my humor is based on one-liners and serious opinions often take several lines to express. also, i'm probably less likely to use smilies at all in serious posts. if you're not sure if a particular post was serious or not, feel free to ask and i will let you know. (that thumbs up was semi-sarcastic, but not really. shit, i can't even read my own posts... )
If someone would PM me to express that they are unimpressed or upset over my post - I will always consider that and like, 90% of the time I'll change it. But the rep option skips that whole process, and I too have noticed that I'll get neg reps for bullshit reasons like ummm, expressing myself or defending someone. Indian~Summer gave me neg rep for removing pic links. *shrugs* It doesn't even count for anything, so it's no skin off anyone's nose.
"May" is so easy to spell, too. I hope you know I was being silly about the serious-shown-with-thumbs-up-thing.. That must be the longest post I've ever read written by you. Well done! Now I will trail you through the forums, posting after you each time with "Are you serious about that?"
but not the person as a whole..... i've given negative rep to posts i didnt like, and as far as im concerned thats what its for. some of the negative rep was given to people i adore, and didnt change my overall impression of the person one bit... just didnt agree with or like the post. like i said if it was about repping people on "who they are" then it would be set up differently imho. *shrugs*
I don't see many examples of people taking the repping system to be about "who they are" really though. I mean, the people offended by negative rep, seem more offended about specific things getting repped negatively "how dare he call me an asshole for speaking my mind!!!" I understand the argument you're making, I can't for the life of me figure out why though.
That's the thing - is it worth it to neg rep someone because you disagree with their post or don't like it? Why not PM them to say something instead of avoiding the issue and opting to give them neg rep? I dunno, the system is really stupid and pointless. Causes more feuds and popularity competition than it does contribute to the atmosphere here.
I dunno, I haven't found much use for negative rep - but I like rep, as it gives some incentive to give feedback to each other.
In my opinion.. Reputation is the reputation of that user on the forums. I don't see how that's not repping the person and the post.
I think the only way it would be a fair representation of the person's actual forum reputation would be if every person had to rep every post.. But I do agree that the person is getting commented on through their post. Even if it's just one thing that they said that you didn't like, and you normally like them, you're still telling them something you don't like about what they said. It's not like their keyboard is on autotype..
I definately do not think that rep is a fair representation of someone's reputation. But that is what it's supposed to mean. And if someone has "___ has done some shameful things in the past" simply because he has had different opinions on things.. I don't see how that's fair. I was just thinking about what you were saying and I do agree with you now. I didn't really know what you were talking about before. But, on the other hand (and I know I'm going to totally contradict myself for saying this but I will anyway), positive rep is used in the same thing. I've had a few "I agree with this :cheers2:" pos reps... And I don't think twice. If someone commented with "I don't agree with this " neg reps, I wouldn't be upset, but I would think that the person was abusing the rep system. So... I don't know. There are two sides to each story. Overall, I like rep because I get to tell people stuff I like about them and their posts. I don't think many people take it toooo seriously, I just think we appreciate it being used in a positive manner.
This argument will get you nowhere with MJB because she doesn't mind controversy or arguments or hurt feelings. From that perspective, giving out neg rep costs nothing. This is the way I look at it. And that is why I hate the whole rep system. Unless you sit on the fence on every issue or make only pointless, shallow posts, then every post you make is likely to be disagreed with by somebody. Following MJB's logic, then, every post should receive negative rep. That sucks.
im curious now as to what constitutes giving good and bad rep, examples would be appreciated. here's an example of what i think the rep system is designed for: the other day someone called someone else fat when that person was already clearing having a shitty day, i like both parties involved but thought that the person who made the comment was being insensitive, so i gave them bad rep saying "that was mean" i've also given that person a few good reps for other things they had said that i appreciated along the way. does that one bad rep mean that i dislike that person? no, does a good rep mean i like them?! nope...just means that at that moment in time i liked or disliked something they said. so, wtf are we repping then? cause i dont know, are we repping because we like a person or are we repping because we like what they say????!????