Anti-War Bush vs. Warmongers

i agree, and I gotta go.
i think i'll take one last peek at our other two discussions, then I gotta fly.

 

osama, saddam, hitler, stalin, mao, yes. I'd throw sharon in there too

 

lol gotta love ya Ken

 

it's nice to see how much fuel you try to add to get people to argue with you..not debate, but argue.

 

he agreed with you on a few, but he didn't agree with you on kerry and edwards, you keep throwing them in there to try to get into an arguement with someone.

 

though i find it ludicrous to lump kerry and edwards in there. Bill and Hillary, well, the 25 business associates dying is suspicious but no, not the same league.
Sharon used to be in the military, and has some pretty horrendous accusations to answer to.

 

lol, ok, let's add YOU in there..

 

Overseeing the slaughter of Palestinians in Lebanon.

 

Karl Give it up lol

 

i already nominated you..

 

yes Hitler and Osama are bad..and should go on the shit list.

 

hey hey hey!

Blackvelvet's input is always welcome on any thread I post on.

Of course, this might be becuz I seem to usually agree with her, and it is nice to have support.

Or it could be cuz she is such a sweetheart...

No, it must be her very sharp intellect....


Scratch that, I remember now

It is that she is filled with love, unconditional love for all humanity, regardless of any demographics!

 

You're kidding right? Bush himself has admitted that he is a "war president". If you watched the presidential debates, you would have heard what Kerry had to say about the war. He was against it. It was "the wrong war at the wrong time" according to him.

This war isn't about Bush wanting peace, it's about the oil, and him making sure he has a big, fat bank account at the end of his term.

What he really needs to do is address the issues here in the United States and stop sinking some much money into other countries.

I feel that by his war, he is creating more enemies against the US. I'm more afraid now of terrorist attacks than I was the day of September 11th.

Peace.

 

This is an untrue statement.

Bush is in a 'WarTime' Presidency.
If Kerry won, he would also hold a 'Wartime Presidency'.

[This has nothing to do with 'Admitting' anything.]

AL Quaida declared and carried out a war on the USA. Now Bush must end that war in order to be in a 'Peacetime' presidency.

Then Kerry is a bald face liar who said what he needed to in order to win your vote.
John Kerry endorsed, supported and officially signed papers 'green lighting' the invasion of Iraq.
The ONLY difference is that Kerry 'claims' he would have convinced other UN member nations (like France) to help him invade and liberate Iraq faster.

Kerry is and was 100% in favour of invading Iraq.
That is simply his own position.

Fascinating.
George Bush Jr. is already a multi-multi-millionaire and stands to inherit millions more.
He can literally tens of millions of dollars more through speaking tours and books.
But you are so actually willing to believe that Bush wants to make a few million off some Oil Wells the 'He' will control in Iraq.
WOW.

WOW as in = Stupidest thing Ive ever heard.

Im sure you are also believing that all this money from killing people is in a 'secret bank account' since there is absolutely zero evidence Bush 'makes money' from the war?

Now your theory gets even wierder.
Bush is now sinking money into other countries.

Well, here is the ugly truth. Americans WILL benefit from having US-Friendly Oil profits.
This will compensate for the massive amount of money Americans have spent on improving Iraq.
Got a problem with that?

Well lets see?
Afghanistan's Talibann was one enemy that did a nice job slaughtering 3,000 Americans while they worked and sat on airplanes.

Now they are eliminated. Thats One.

Saddam did a good job killing a lot of American Allies (Kuwaiti's) and did a nice job torturing and killing a few dozen Americans too.

In anycase, a 'Neutral' threat has been eliminated and replaced with a friendly Iraq.

Hmmm.. Al Quaida was actively interested in slaughtering YOU.
So far, a few thousand of them have been eliminated.

Libya was doing a nice job of developing chemical and Nuclear weapons until Bush declared counter-war on Terrorism.

Now Libya has folded and agreed to completely open it nation to all peaceful agreements and demands.

So far, Bush is demonstratably doing a great job in bringing about peace between the USA and its enemies.

 

the poeple that caused 911 were from saudi arabia you fuck

 

Iraq is friendly? Do you honestly think elections will be held there in January? Do you know how much the Iraqi people despise Allawi, simply because he's friendly to the US? His own security forces won't even fight for him! But if there are elections, if anyone other than Allawi gets elected; I'll be shocked....

As for Osama; I bet he's a happy person right now. His goal is to bankrupt us; and he's well on his way to doing so. The ranks of Al Qaeda are swelling more and more everyday. I do believe it's estimated that their are many times their numbers than were prior to our invasion of Iraq.

 

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how come they arent being bombed? and yemen?

and they restored a dictatorial monarchy in Kuwait? that doesnt sound right either, especially when you look back in history and see it used to be a province of Iraq......hmmmm.

And Brocktoon thinks that oil having any influence on the conflict's origins is quote 'the stupidest thing he's ever heard' hmmmm

Ya, it was all in the name of justice, goodwill, and protecting humankind from the evil wrongdoers......uh huh......

no big multinational oil companies that stood to benefit by the billions ever crossed their minds as they pondered this action, right?
That is what Brocktoon believes.
Do You?

 

This thread is just another example of Brocktoon's very warped logic. Trying to get through to someone so illogical is a waste of time. It is like telling a brick wall to be jello. Or maybe better, telling a brick wall that thinks he's jello he is actually a brick wall.

 

So far, none of you have posted any clear explanation why my statements are 'Bullshit'.

Instead of just 'Decreeing' me as 'a fuck' or asserting that my logic is 'wrong' - why not explain why?

To the 'Brainiac' who noted most of the 9/11 enemy soldiers were born in Saudi Arabia: Great.
You do know the headquarters for the attacks were in Afghanistan I hope?
In case everyone forgot - The Afghanistan Gov. sponsored and protected Bin Laudens' Al Quaida (btw, Osama is from Saudi Arabia too)

To the guy who thinks 'Big Oil' is making profits off the Iraqi Oil:
Please explain why this is 'bad'?

Keep in mind that Saddam was making huge profits off that Oil.
Should no one make money from that Oil?

In case your wondering - Iraqi people enjoy a lot of benefits from selling that Oil.

So its bad that Iraq becomes an Oil nation exactly the same as the USA?

 

To the 'Brainiac' who noted most of the 9/11 enemy soldiers were born in Saudi Arabia: Great.
You do know the headquarters for the attacks were in Afghanistan I hope?
In case everyone forgot - The Afghanistan Gov. sponsored and protected Bin Laudens' Al Quaida (btw, Osama is from Saudi Arabia too) brocktoon

Well, first off, I believe it was Al Quaida that sponsored the Taliban, buying their way into a very poor country.
Secondly, you admit the Saudi Arabian origins of the majority of the attackers, yet manage to miss the point about that particular sexist, dictatorial monarchy, getting off scott free? bizarre BG13

To the guy who thinks 'Big Oil' is making profits off the Iraqi Oil:
Please explain why this is 'bad'? toon

Nothing, unless you connect those dollars to the war's reason d'etre, but you ignore that part of the equation, as though the end justifies the means. So we had to have a war to get the big oil company's their billions, what is wrong with that? Hmmmm, I guess you're right, that is not a bad thing at all....

I am glad Saddam is gone, and glad the Taliban are gone, I just see money and power, and not freedom, democracy, justice, etc. as the motivation for the wars, thats all. BG13