Anti-War Protesters

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Peanuts, Oct 15, 2004.

  1. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    How's that fucking possible? Bush hasn't done a damn thing for this country, and Kerry isn't going to be anywhere near as bad as he was. You cannot say with a straight face "George W Bush is not the worst president this country has ever had."
     
  2. crummyrummy

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    I may not be able to now but if Kerry is elected I will be able to in 4 years.
     
  3. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    So you'd rather stay in the shitter and get in deeper and deeper than try to get out?
     
  4. crummyrummy

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    What do you think Kerry is going to do differently? He doesnt have any clue what he is going to do differently. His puppet pullers havent told him yet.
     
  5. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    Well whatever it is, IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER THAN WHAT BUSH HAS DONE. Nobody can do any worse, no President has been in control of a worse economy since Herbert Hoover (which was the time of the Great Depression). Do you not give a fuck about the 5 million more people who are below the poverty level? And what about stem cells, which are known to cure and fix otherwise incurable diseases? Do you support George W Bush killing all those people because of his ban on testing? John Kerry would lift the ban, and that's better than what Bush could do. Do you support the FBI and CIA unconstitutionally barging into peoples' homes in "terroristic" searches (Patriot Act). I could go on and on about why Kerry is better than Bush in ALL WAYS IMAGINABLE. Unless of course you are a Christian and you feel it is your right to invade into peoples' personal lives.
     
  6. crummyrummy

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    ah yes, so you have no answer then.
     
  7. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    All of what I said was an answer. All of what I said are just a few ways on how Kerry is better than Bush. Have you no reading comprehension skills?
     
  8. crummyrummy

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    I see you dodging my question. I can answer 11 to every questioned asked, but it dont make it an answer ,it makes it a response.
     
  9. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    Ask the question again then, I'm not dodging anything on purpose, I must've misread it.
     
  10. crummyrummy

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    I asked you what Kerry has said he would do differently. All you did was point out where Bush was lacking. I seem to find that flaw in every vocal Kerry supporter. I never said Bush is the best man for the Job. I merely said I think Kerry is worse.
     
  11. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    I do not support John Kerry, but I have researched both candidates extensively and I know that Kerry is much better than Bush. Him and Edwards have said that they will fight for universal healthcare, opposed to what the Bush administration has done these last 4 years. They will try and get the troops out of Iraq into Afghanistan, which is better than occupying both nations(I think we need to pull out like Vietnam). He said he is going to lower the number of outsourced jobs greatly, which is a reason why the economy is so fucked up now. I could keep going, but I'd like to see you refute these statements first.
     
  12. crummyrummy

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    clinton made the same promise for health care. Dr.s have a 9 year extremely expensive education they have to pay off, and will never work for free( some will, I am talking about most) so that will never happen unless you wish to pay 70% taxes. Oh ,your 17, you have no clue do you?

    If our troops vacate Iraq, what would happen? Less Americans would die yes, but would it fix anything? America is a capitalist society, our companies will, whether you like it or not, flock there to exploit the oil. If we don't protect their monitary intrests, they will move their taxable income to a country that will (this will cuause jobs to be lost and the economy to worsen). Capitalism at its finest. you are very very naive if you think anyone that could actually get elected does not understand that fact. Kerry will not pull out.

    Kerry has no control over outsourced jobs. Maybe his personal employees, but dell, microsoft, gm, ford,...etc at infinatum are not his toys. They have more control over him then he will ever have over them. They each have enough money to bury him politically if he should choose to try what you preach. He knows this .

    And lastly, the economy is fucked because we elected a democrat for 8 years during the 90's. Clinton inherited a good economy. Bush inherited a mess. even Herbert Hoover inherited his problem. He didnt cause it, he dealt with it.

    Now before you bring it up, I will admit that Bush's puppet pullers made him go finish what his dad started. Shoulda been done then(1991-92) but damned PC mofo's wouldnt allow it. Yes, GBsr wanted to get re-elected. so would you if you had his job.
    ok I think I addressed your points.
    enlighten me .
     
  13. BlackVelvet

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    Wait, when Clinton was elected he said we would have healthcare..my brother and sister and i didnt have insurance, my parents couldn't afford it, but when Clinton was elected, we got CHIPS which we got because of CLINTON..Clinton also balanced the deficit, CLINTON was great president, and if he wanted to have sex so be it, it's not for us to judge and YES he lied, but come on, they were asking him about sex damnit..and he was married..what married man is going to say YES i cheated on my wife. and NO Clinton reduced the deficit, where do you come up that he messed it up? Bush was given a balanced deficit..

    Second Kerry never said he would stop all outsourcing, he said, he will stop most of it..he said he will NOT give tax breaks to those people who outsource jobs, but give the tax breaks to those who create jobs to the people right here..in the United States.
     
  14. crummyrummy

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    Clinton inherited a working program. He fucked it up.

    Clinton did not reduce deficit, he only took credit for it, his programs only created debt.
    Clinton only ceated jobs for lawyers. I dont agree with what the rebublicans did to him, bit he was a lousy president, none the less.
     
  15. crummyrummy

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    so your parents couldnt provide for you.? this is Bush's fault how? your parents reproduced when they could not live up to the obligation. that makes you someone who should care about abortion.
     
  16. BlackVelvet

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    i never said it was Bush's fault..i just said we couldnt afford healthcare insurance, and don't judge my parents, they did a good job taking care of us, for you to even insinuate such a thing was a low blow..Good day.
     
  17. BlackVelvet

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    and this is all your opinion :)
     
  18. crummyrummy

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    your parents are great people.
    I have opinions.
     
  19. crummyrummy

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    But you gonna resond, make sure it aint opinion. I am just sitting here wating to to unload on your ass.
     
  20. BlackVelvet

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    unload on my ass i dont care..I'm not gonna get all worked up over it :)
     

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