Any Atheist And/or Agnostic Rt's?

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Read that(^^^) and you'll understand what I'm talking about.......hopefully. Perhaps I haven't been explaining myself properly and, if that's the case, then I apologize.

 

I guess I'm basically going to disagree with pretty much everything you post because though I am religious, as religious as a Pagan can be (says the mainstreamers XD) I was not raised in any way, shape or form on any religious doctrine. I simply crafted myself into my culture.. on my own terms, on my own merits and when I finally told my parents what I thought of Jesus and all that, they were so happy that their daughter had found something in her life that had meaning and purpose to her, they didn't mind at all which faith I had followed. My three sister remain atheist to this day. My parents were both Catholic.

 

Your story is a perfect example to explain my interpretation of what TopNotchStoner is saying.

Believe what you want, love others.

I loved reading your story btw, it was short, concise, beautiful ending and just lovely in mostly everyway.

 

I am no religion....do not follow religion but am very spiritual and form my own feelings.....idk....who does?

I don't like being preached at or talked at and anyone trying to force any of their beliefs on me. It is a pet peeve of mine....
I was just thinking about this.....

I went to a Christening last weekend and was very impressed by the priest there. He spoke alot, but he wasn't preaching at anyone telling anyone what to think...He was a very humble man speaking from his heart, and I knew he walked the walk.....he practiced what he preached, so to speak....and was very kind...I believed him, as I believed who he is.....I kissed him on the cheek as I left the church and told him he filled the entire building with love. He did......
I have not heard many preachers like this one....I have heard...pompous, loud, preachy, arrogant....ok, let me reach for your wallet ones.....in the past.....though....

I respect people who talk to you and not at you very much....

 

It's okay to disagree. As I said in the opening post, I want to have a healthy, calm discussion, and that's exactly what we're doing.

You're pagan? The definition of Paganism is having beliefs that don't pertain to the world's main religions. Some pagans used to worship the sun(I'm sure some still do), some would worship statues, animals, Gaia, Earth, their ancestors, etc. All of these examples are, technically, paganism. I guess if I was to "worship" something, and maybe in a way, I do..........it would be the Sun and other stars, but we'll get to that later. Out of curiosity, and if you don't mind my asking, what or whom do you worship? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming you worship Earth.

As for me, I believe in logic, science, and the universe. Afterall, based on scientific findings, we are all stardust. Nothing would exist without stars. Most, if not all, of the elements that make up life can ONLY be created in stars. When a star goes supernova and explodes, those elements are scattered through the galaxy, and probably beyond the galaxy in which the star used to reside.

Check this out, if you haven't seen it. It's beautiful and this is what I believe:
[media]http://youtu.be/9D05ej8u-gU[/media]

 

Eggzakly

 

I forgot to add.............your parents sound awesome.

 

Well Hell, there's yur problem right thar!

 

lol Ain't that the truth. A bunch of loonies, they are.

 

imo, any fanaticism is a mental illness....^

There are those that say religion is, and that the logical brain in a healthy state could not believe in Santa Clauses, unicorns and Tinker bells......lol

When we are small, we look "up" to our parents for everything........so maybe that is just what we are programmed to do from infancy, and some never grow out of it. Big daddy in the sky will fix everything for me syndrome kind of thing....

I tend to think that whatever "god" there is exists in all life.....

 

I was an atheist, but I think I'm starting to flip. After reading about the inner-workings of the living cell, I'm starting to believe it's too perfect to be accidental...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_zD3NxSsD8

 

could life itself then be the god?....and life comes in a variety of shapes and forms.....maybe the entire universe is one living breathing cell born from other universes?

 

now you're beginning to get it

 

God is a masochist then? With an insatiable desire to consume and kill itself?

 

this is basically exactly what I find myself believing when I allow my mind to grow still and meditate on the wonder of nature. Otherwise, I dont really give it a whole lot of thought - I guess I am about as agnostic as one can be. I think the human race is too insignificant and limited to ever know.

I find beauty in all religions but I can also see hate and corruption in some of them, namely the more popular religions.

I have a similar background as you, topnotch. I was raised in a southern Baptist church. I have actually felt a lot of judgment from various people throughout the years, to the point where I dont discuss my beliefs at all. Its easier to let someone assume you are a Christian than let them assume the responsibility of saving your soul. Conversely I also have Christian (and a couple of Muslim) friends who are wonderfully open minded and find my beliefs as beautiful as I find theirs.

 

Well, then we get into the existentialism points of view....the ridiculousness of it all.....and what is the point of it all? there is none.

 

Seems more of a nihilist point of view.

 

What is your point of view? Mine is always opened......