Any Hippie Libertarians Out There?

Libertarian socialist.

 

I used to think of myself as a libertarian, but I figure I'm a bit closer to a green than libertarian. That would make me.. an individual!! hooray

 

I'm closer to Libertarian then any of the other organized parties, and I was one of the LP voters last election as well...

I sum up the LP as being: Socialy Liberal, but Financially Conservative..

 

“I am a Radical Left-Wing Libertarian when it comes to personal freedoms, but I don't concentrate much on the economic philosophy”

I think that is one of the most stupid thing I’ve heard on a politics forum

Economic is one of the most important things in politics any historian will tell you that power lays in the hands of those who control the purse strings.

If you are the citizen of a nation and have a vote one of the most important considerations when choosing who to vote for should be what is that party going to do with your nations wealth.

How can this person think of themselves as left wing and don’t understand how much economic theories effect political viewpoint.

 

Didn't you see the "liberterian socialst" one.

 

Eugene

I’m not sure if you are talking about a thread or a post, if you can point it out it would be help, cheers.

As to the term "liberterian socialist" the problem is that the two philosophies, socialism and libertarianism, cancel each other out.

So that someone claiming to be a ‘socialist libertarian’ is basically saying that they either don’t know what they think, (and what is worse don’t seem to want to find out) or they have a very different take of one of the viewpoints meanings.

The only problem is that if you so radically change a definition it can end up having no meaning, many a country has called itself democratic when it was blatantly not, just because someone calls themselves something it doesn’t necessarily mean they are.

 

Balbus,
It was a post one page back, down at the bottom.
Also, it's kinda mean to think that because someone really doesn't know much or care about economic philosophy that they have no real intererst in politics, i mean economics is really a junk science, it's kinda like what chiropracty is to surgeons.

 

Eugene

"It was a post one page back, down at the bottom."

That’s it, just "libertarian socialist" no explanation nothing, just two words, what was their point what was your point in pointing it out?

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"Also, it's kinda mean to think that because someone really doesn't know much or care about economic philosophy that they have no real intererst in politics, i mean economics is really a junk science, it's kinda like what chiropracty is to surgeons."

Can you name me one modern political philosophy that doesn’t have a major economic dimension?

Communism
Socialism
Green
Libertarian

All are based on economic ideas and are involved in some measure of control, regulation or freedom of economic systems.

 

I was thinking that even Anarchy has a strong element of economics about it (or should I say non-economics). A lot of discussions amongst anarchist is about how Anarchy could supply all the goods and services of modern existence without having monetary incentives?

 

I have heard of this term but I'm not so sure I understand what it means. Could someone elaborate?

 

Libertrarians claimed that if you just get Big Government out of the way, a market economy will ensure that consumers make choices that naturally lead to greater liberty and better use/distribution of resources. Nice speculation, but it's simply been proven wrong.

Look around at the USA today: the private sector is no longer restrained by government or law or any sense of morality whatsoever. They control the government, all three branches, and at all levels. Free the private sector from big government and they simply reconstitute big government in a form they can use against the common folks.

It was worth trying, but it's failed miserably, and another unworkable idea goes into the trash dump of history.

 

you are not alone! i'm a libertarian, i believe that any governmental action under pretext of public good must not be done if it contravene personal liberty, for example, conscription, war on drugs should be all abolished.
by the way, interestingly, many early hippies were not politically left. Ken Karouac was an openly conservative. many hippies voted for Barry Goldwater for president, who was the major ideologue of libertarian-conservatives (he actually was more a libertarian), instead of the liberal LBJ. if i was alive back then i would vote for goldwater too.

 

I like that
I think libertarian socialism is really the way to go ..

 

What we have in the US today is NOT a free market! AFAIC, not only does it not exist today, but it didn't exist during the Reagan years either! What we have is corporatism, corporate welfare and merchantilism. If you were to ask me, these are all synonymous.

With corporate welfare, the corporations lobby the government to pass laws so as to protect their position in the industry and that consumers are almost forced products and services from that company or group of industries. For example, when an energy provider, be it a gas and electric company, fuel provider or whatever lobby the government to pass laws which forbid others from providing the same or similar service to the public, this is an antethesis of the free market. In a true free market, consumers would not be forced to buy goods and services from the sole gas and electric company (they could choose alternative sources, including solar power, etc.) or the oil cartels (they could choose to buy fuel made from hemp, etc.) or the Wal-Mart (they could buy from their local merchants).

Sorry, but it was never given a real chance.

BTW, would someone explain the concept of libertarian socialism to me?

 

im an me and im a libertarian.

 

Never thought of Hippies as supporting big-goverment.

 

the govt cant regulate and then ruin a once great wet dream.

 

When I registered to vote a few years ago I registered Libertarian. Since then they have taken the party off everything in my state (maybe just the county, I am not sure) so for some reason I can not claim affiliation with the party on my voters registration.

 

Really!

 

I thnk it is state wide. I heard they have done something crazy in NC recently.

In Tennessee, you don't have the option to register with a party, any party be it Republican or Democrat. I kind of like that actually, though it could be cool to register Libertarian.